[themast]

So, I decided to replace the cabin air filter but once I got to the filter cover, there was a gasket that caught me by surprise.

Should I just pry the cover off? With some heat? What do I use when I put it back together?

Finally, also the bolts holding the cover seemed to have some gasket. Again, what do I use when I put back together?

This is the filter cover plate. See the gasket keeping it glued to the bulkhead.

And this is one of the cover plate bolts. See the rubber residue.

 

[DLax69]

So, I decided to replace the cabin air filter but once I got to the filter cover, there was a gasket that caught me by surprise.

Should I just pry the cover off? With some heat? What do I use when I put it back together?

Finally, also the bolts holding the cover seemed to have some gasket. Again, what do I use when I put back together?

This is the filter cover plate. See the gasket keeping it glued to the bulkhead.
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And this is one of the cover plate bolts. See the rubber residue.

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Pry it off. Then reassemble with RTV, silicone, whatever...just make sure it cures and is watertight...or you won't enjoy the puddles in your footwells...

 

[Jason@ Enzo`s Atlanta]

+1 and you just need a very thin film of RTV..People get the stuff and go crazy and make like 1/4" beads..No red, blue or orange if you want to look pro...I can give you a link to a few if needed..J

 

[themast]

Thanks for the advice. I pried the cover off and I think I did not damage the gasket. Can I reuse it or do you think it is best to remove it and apply the RTV?

Also, have read horror stories about water in the footwell. My filter housing was relatively clean (see photo below) and dry. Filter itself I think shows a bit of prior wetness at the bottom.

Should I do anything specific (beyond cleaning) while I am in there?

Old filter

Filter cover plate gasket

Filter housing condition. Bottom appear to be dry.

 

[Jason@ Enzo`s Atlanta]

I would just reuse that gasket..J

 

[themast]

I would just reuse that gasket..J

Thanks Jason, I will clean and reuse it.

Do you have any experience with that water ingress issues related to the cabin filter?

Aircon clean out / pollen filter

As the better weather starts to come round again, be prepared this year and not have water dripping on your open toes in you Jesus creepers, clean out your pollen filter and aircon drain: You will need a new pollen filter (DESMO B838 £20-40) as you old one will be soaked and not usable.The...

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I don't drive much in the rain, I have not seen the problem in my car, and everything is currently dry (filter housing and footwell area). Just put everything back together and move on???

 

[Jason@ Enzo`s Atlanta]

No, those cars stay pretty dry...Coupe and convertible..J

 

[DLax69]

Thanks Jason, I will clean and reuse it.

Do you have any experience with that water ingress issues related to the cabin filter?

Aircon clean out / pollen filter

As the better weather starts to come round again, be prepared this year and not have water dripping on your open toes in you Jesus creepers, clean out your pollen filter and aircon drain: You will need a new pollen filter (DESMO B838 £20-40) as you old one will be soaked and not usable.The...

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I don't drive much in the rain, I have not seen the problem in my car, and everything is currently dry (filter housing and footwell area). Just put everything back together and move on???

Had it happen as leaves had clogged the weeps near the hinges and had to be cleaned out...but air filter stayed dry.

 

[themast]

Done!

Let me share some tips based on my experience.

This video made by somebody else shows the basics but leaves many details out.

In terms of parts, as detailed in other threads, the filter is compatible with Alfa 166 and Lancia Kappa. I got mine from eBay.
Nothing fancy about the filter. The replacement that I purchased seems to have fewer plies but I don’t think that matters much.
The filter I took out was stamped 01/08 so I guess it was replaced at least once since the car was new but may have been 10+ years old. If that is true I think conditions were pretty good

When removing the large plastic cowling, you only have to undo a couple of turns the three screws below. Remove all the other screws and then flip up the cowling from the front, slide it toward the front then up and out.

In the second photo I show how the three screws work. If you manage to undo them completely it is not a problem but when you put them back you have to pre-assemble them and tighten them just enough so that the floating piece engages under the cowling but still allows the cowling to be put back in place (if they are too loose they will spin under the cowling)

Finally, you don’t need the pliers shown in the video or a puller to remove the wiper. The base of the wiper sits at an angle and therefore it does not come out because when you try to pull it gets stuck against the threads. You need to get a good grip at the base, twist it so that the hole is aligned with the post and then slide it out. A bit of wd40 can help but it is just a matter to get the right angle.

 

[TheSwede]

Done!

Let me share some tips based on my experience.

This video made by somebody else shows the basics but leaves many details out.

In terms of parts, as detailed in other threads, the filter is compatible with Alfa 166 and Lancia Kappa. I got mine from eBay.
Nothing fancy about the filter. The replacement that I purchased seems to have fewer plies but I don’t think that matters much.
The filter I took out was stamped 01/08 so I guess it was replaced at least once since the car was new but may have been 10+ years old. If that is true I think conditions were pretty good

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When removing the large plastic cowling, you only have to undo a couple of turns the three screws below. Remove all the other screws and then flip up the cowling from the front, slide it toward the front then up and out.

In the second photo I show how the three screws work. If you manage to undo them completely it is not a problem but when you put them back you have to pre-assemble them and tighten them just enough so that the floating piece engages under the cowling but still allows the cowling to be put back in place (if they are too loose they will spin under the cowling)


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Finally, you don’t need the pliers shown in the video or a puller to remove the wiper. The base of the wiper sits at an angle and therefore it does not come out because when you try to pull it gets stuck against the threads. You need to get a good grip at the base, twist it so that the hole is aligned with the post and then slide it out. A bit of wd40 can help but it is just a matter to get the right angle.

Hi and thanks for the instructions
There's however how to dismantle the wiper arm I don't understand. Can you try to explain it further?

 

[themast]

Hi and thanks for the instructions
There's however how to dismantle the wiper arm I don't understand. Can you try to explain it further?

Let's see if this helps (assuming I understand what you are asking and that I remember correctly how it works...).

You need to align the wiper base to the threaded post first (1) and then pull out (2), otherwise the base of the wiper arm catches against he threads of the post. To do (1), you need to grab the base of the wiper arm and twist/wiggle it and then "feel" for when you are at a good angle to pull (2). You are doing all that bent over the windshield base so it requires a bit of finagling.

Makes sense?

 

[TheSwede]

Let's see if this helps (assuming I understand what you are asking and that I remember correctly how it works...).

You need to align the wiper base to the threaded post first (1) and then pull out (2), otherwise the base of the wiper arm catches against he threads of the post. To do (1), you need to grab the base of the wiper arm and twist/wiggle it and then "feel" for when you are at a good angle to pull (2). You are doing all that bent over the windshield base so it requires a bit of finagling.

Makes sense?




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Thanks! I think I got it what you mean. I used a puller to get it loose but I'll try your method when it's time for reassembling.
Do you perhaps know which way the cabin filter should be in? The new one only fits in one direction but the old one was in the opposite direction. (I bought a filter without the black plastic frame.) It kind of looks like the previos owner cut out two sides of the filter frame of the old one so it would fit.

 

[themast]

Thanks! I think I got it what you mean. I used a puller to get it loose but I'll try your method when it's time for reassembling.
Do you perhaps know which way the cabin filter should be in? The new one only fits in one direction but the old one was in the opposite direction. (I bought a filter without the black plastic frame.) It kind of looks like the previos owner cut out two sides of the filter frame of the old one so it would fit.

I am not sure I follow the question. Anyway you can check out the above photos to get a sense of how it goes back it. The "air flow" arrow has to point toward the cabin.

 

[TheSwede]

Let's see if this helps (assuming I understand what you are asking and that I remember correctly how it works...).

You need to align the wiper base to the threaded post first (1) and then pull out (2), otherwise the base of the wiper arm catches against he threads of the post. To do (1), you need to grab the base of the wiper arm and twist/wiggle it and then "feel" for when you are at a good angle to pull (2). You are doing all that bent over the windshield base so it requires a bit of finagling.

Makes sense?




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Thanks, I think a got it! I used a puller to get it of but will try your method when reassembly.
I have an another question regarding how to fit the new cabin filter. The new one seems to only fit in one direction but then it won't match the old ones airflow direction. Should the airflow direction go towards the cabin or the engine? The old filters air flow was towards the cabin and the new one will be towards the engine. It seems that the old filter doesn't have two borders on the sides. (On my pictures it will be top and bottom.) I tried to show the fitting score in the frame as well.

 

[themast]

Ok, now I see what you are saying.

I don't remember but from my own photos I think that my replacement filter did not have the sides.

I suspect you will need to modify your replacement one to fit it. The air flow direction has to point toward the cabin.

 

[TheSwede]

Ok, now I see what you are saying.

I don't remember but from my own photos I think that my replacement filter did not have the sides.

I suspect you will need to modify your replacement one to fit it. The air flow direction has to point toward the cabin.

Great and thanks!