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#21 ·
I never knew a thread created to define the word "exotic" could get this complicated.

Here's my definition of "exotic" that I believe applies to EVERYTHING. I mean EVERYTHING:

- Anything and everything that possesses all of these 3 attributes:

1. Excellent looks.
2. Foreign.
3. Extremely high maintenance.

If even 1 attribute is missing, then she, I mean it simply ins't "exotic."

Just stick to this checklist and there will be no argument over what is considered exotic, going forward.
 
#22 ·
ErikDiSomma said:
I never knew a thread created to define the word "exotic" could get this complicated.

Here's my definition of "exotic" that I believe applies to EVERYTHING. I mean EVERYTHING:

- Anything and everything that possesses all of these 3 attributes:

1. Excellent looks.
2. Foreign.
3. Extremely high maintenance.

If even 1 attribute is missing, then she, I mean it simply ins't "exotic."

Just stick to this checklist and there will be no argument over what is considered exotic, going forward.
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This is nice... sounds like maybe you have a girlfriend in mind.
 
#23 ·
tasnam said:
Good story....not sure that has any relation to the exotic debate at hand.....just sayin'

(that could happen with ANY vehicle - exotic or not)
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Thrilling details aside, my point was that this mechanic had possibly never seen a Porsche 928 actually stop at his station. So to him, it may as well have been a Countach, or a moon rover. I agree that any car could eat a belt on a road trip, but most cars would seem more approachable to a backwoods garage mechanic.
 
#24 ·
IMO, the second item ( “ foreign “ ) cannot be considered a factor. If it was , does that mean that Maserati or Ferrari of Lamborgnini are not exotic cars to those who live in Italy ? McLaren not exotic in England ? Koenigsegg not exotic in Sweden ? NSX not exotic in Japan ?
Aw, don’t mind my smart-ass reply, just having fun with the exotic concept >:) Same criteria with girlfriends :wink2:
 
#25 ·
ErikDiSomma said:
I never knew a thread created to define the word "exotic" could get this complicated.

Here's my definition of "exotic" that I believe applies to EVERYTHING. I mean EVERYTHING:

- Anything and everything that possesses all of these 3 attributes:

1. Excellent looks.
2. Foreign.
3. Extremely high maintenance.

If even 1 attribute is missing, then she, I mean it simply ins't "exotic."

Just stick to this checklist and there will be no argument over what is considered exotic, going forward.
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So, in Italy, not even a LaFerrari is an Exotic. Or a Bugatti in France. Cool. :nerd:
 
#26 ·
ErikDiSomma said:
I never knew a thread created to define the word "exotic" could get this complicated.

Here's my definition of "exotic" that I believe applies to EVERYTHING. I mean EVERYTHING:

- Anything and everything that possesses all of these 3 attributes:

1. Excellent looks.
2. Foreign.
3. Extremely high maintenance.

If even 1 attribute is missing, then she, I mean it simply ins't "exotic."

Just stick to this checklist and there will be no argument over what is considered exotic, going forward.
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Any of the three could be nitpicked to death concerning the GT EXCEPT the first one. Most of us though totally saw where you were going with this, lol.



Ron
 
#27 ·
toshy said:
So, in Italy, not even a LaFerrari is an Exotic. Or a Bugatti in France. Cool. <img src="http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/images/MaseratiLife_2014/smilies/tango_face_glasses.png" border="0" alt="" title="Nerd" class="inlineimg" />
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No, they'd be rare, limited production, domestics.
 
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#28 ·
We argue about this on the Lotus Forums all the time. Personally, due to rarity, cost and apearance, I consider both the GTS and my Evora S an exotic....attainable exotic.....these are the vehicles at the leading edge of the level. In the 21st century, I no longer consider maintenance to be a criteria. All my Lotus have been bullettproof.
 
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#30 ·
Who says Maserati is not an exotic car brand? Exotic doesn't mean "super car". Many GT's are exotic because they manufactured by exotic car brands... Not all of them fall into "super car" either.

If there is such people who say Maserati or any GT is not exotic; I'd like to see their auto collection
 
#32 ·
ddsski said:
We argue about this on the Lotus Forums all the time. Personally, due to rarity, cost and apearance, I consider both the GTS and my Evora S an exotic....attainable exotic.....these are the vehicles at the leading edge of the level. In the 21st century, I no longer consider maintenance to be a criteria. All my Lotus have been bullettproof.
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I have a hard time considering an Evora to be Exotic at all, based solely on it's banal power plant. Yuck haha.
 
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#33 ·
I owned a 1970 Barracuda ( aka ‘cuda “ ) which currently sells for as much 50 times its original sticker price . I would never ever think of that as an exotic car. I also owned a Maserati Merak. No idea what those go for nowadays, willing to bet it’s no way near the proportional value vs. original price as the ’cuda, but I sure as hell think of it as an exotic car, as I think most people will. My point is that price should not really be a key factor in that definition, unless you’re talking about brand new cars where it’s hard to argue that a car in the $ 250 K to $ 1 mil + range are not “ exotic “. IMO.
 
#34 ·
I think the notion of "exotic" is inherently bound to a particular cultural context. So what is exotic in America is not necessarily exotic in Italy. The number 1 definition of "exotic" on Merriam-Webster is introduced from another country : not native to the place where found.

So obviously the notion of being foreign has something to do with being exotic, and this can never be internationally universal.
 
#35 ·
An additional feature of an Exotic (next to an extraordinary design, see my post before) are used technologies with completely normal functions which do not work and therefore the cars will be sold again quickly because they annoy so much.

Since in my 2018 Granturismo the mobile phone connection via Bluetooth and Apple Car Play does not work solid, the whole multimedia system completely useless is and I think already after a year about it to sell this shitty (but beautiful) car it is proven, a Granturismo is an Exotic.
 
#36 ·
SeanFulop said:
The number 1 definition of "exotic" on Merriam-Webster is introduced from another country : not native to the place where found.
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I think M-W might need to update their dictionary a little...perhaps to the post-1900 era vernacular.
Hey y’all, check out my exotic car wash cloth ( or, insert any given common item here ), it’s from China ! :wink2:>:)
 
#37 ·
BlackMasi said:
Since in my 2018 Granturismo the mobile phone connection via Bluetooth and Apple Car Play does not work solid, and I think already after a year about it to sell this shitty (but beautiful) car
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One would think that in 2018 any car would have a functional phone connection. That said, is the multimedia the reason you bought this car? Also, is this a reason to sell it? No guarantee that it would be any better in a Bentley or any other high priced vehicle.



Ron
 
#38 ·
jlobo941 said:
I have a hard time considering an Evora to be Exotic at all, based solely on it's banal power plant. Yuck haha.
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As an Evora owner, you should know full well that the powerplant does its job extraordinarily well!! My guess is 99% of the public thinks both Maserati and Lotus are exotics. I remember back ~15yrs ago when I got my Elise, everyone kept guessing its value was 2x-3x more than MSRP. That's when you know you did something right!. The handling alone puts it in a rarified class of vehicle.


Same with the GTS. Everyone thinks it is a 200k++ vehicle! Public perception is far more important than our hypercritical perceptions in driving this kind of vision of a vehicle.


You are correct about the Barracuda.. I, to this day, do not remotely understand why those hyper HP's, terrible handling, creaky vehicles from the late 60's command so much money. I understand a Dusenberg, XK140-150, Birdcage etc maybe even some rare Vettes, but I was a kid and drove some of that pig iron....hated them all. The only thing they did well was leave donuts, which was understandable due to their inherently poor tires, and inferior suspension designs, etc. BTW the Barracuda was one of the better looking cars of the era and my neighbor has an awesome restomod version in Plum Crazy. ~~675 at the wheels and he tracks it!!! I was the terrified instructor!! I always found it amusing as a kid when I could so easily lose those vehicles in the twisty bits on my local back roads. If they were built like his, no way! All those 4:10 rear ends skidding around mercilessly. Sooner or later, just like it did for the pre war vehicles, the bottom will drop out as the generation ages out.
 
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#39 ·
ddsski said:
As an Evora owner, you should know full well that the powerplant does its job extraordinarily well!! My guess is 99% of the public thinks both Maserati and Lotus are exotics.
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The powerplant extraordinarily well does the job of running reliably for sure, but is the farthest thing in the world from "exotic" by literally every measure. It doesn't make a ton of power, it sounds silly, and both transmission options are laughable. That being said the whole car as a package is adequate, especially in the handling department, and to those on the the outside, certainly exotic. There are times where I feel like rolling up in a flying saucer would draw less attention. My go to analogy on the Evora is the equivalent of a very good looking, agile, athletic, muscular guy, packing the world's tiniest schwanz.
 
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BlackMasi said:
An additional feature of an Exotic (next to an extraordinary design, see my post before) are used technologies with completely normal functions which do not work and therefore the cars will be sold again quickly because they annoy so much.

Since in my 2018 Granturismo the mobile phone connection via Bluetooth and Apple Car Play does not work solid, the whole multimedia system completely useless is and I think already after a year about it to sell this shitty (but beautiful) car it is proven, a Granturismo is an Exotic.
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You've had issues? I've got an 18 and haven't had any yet.. granted I've only had it a few months..
 
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