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I'm too much of a "body over brains" kind of guy. The Panamera looks too much like a stretched AMC Pacer with LEDs in my opinion.

You should watch the Top Gear comparison between the two on YouTube - Jeremy Clarkson had to avoid looking into plate glass windows driving that thing in fear of seeing its reflection!
old body was not the best unless customized
check out the newer ones
they are very nice looking
back in the day my 2005 Q duo select was less than stellar across the board....
like i posted earlier the newer 2016+ panny turbo is the best sedan i've owned (goes like snot-handles like a dream for a huge car-very minimal repair issues)

they even modeled the new all electric Taycan from the current panny look:smile2:
porsche will sell a boat load of these


https://www.google.com/search?q=tay...s&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCpozo19_iAhXWFzQIHXbqCowQ_AUIECgB&biw=2059&bih=1402
 
Taycan is actually the 1st Porsche in decades I find to be attractive. I am impressed! They finally got brave and developed a relatively new looking vehicle without the bugeyes.
 
I'm too much of a "body over brains" kind of guy. The Panamera looks too much like a stretched AMC Pacer with LEDs in my opinion.

You should watch the Top Gear comparison between the two on YouTube - Jeremy Clarkson had to avoid looking into plate glass windows driving that thing in fear of seeing its reflection!
Honestly I think the Panamera looks great, like a 4-seat 928. The base model, though, is not really a performance car and is something of an embarrassment to the marque. I mean, that V-6 just cannot move that big car adequately. My old 928 would blow its doors off... kind of strange when a 1988 model anything can easily best a 2010 model.

So, given that we're basically talking about the S or Turbo models, I'll take a Panamera for my next car any day.
 
Just shows that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. One can debate tangible things like performance , technology , functionality , etc all day long , but how appealing a car may be visually to any given person is too subjective . Fortunately, we all concur on the Maserati’s sublime beauty so at least we’re in agreement in that respect :smile2:
 
My 1985 QPIII had a window sticker approaching $90,000 in 1985 dollars. The car was in perfect condition. I mean PERFECT with 50K miles. That included a machined finished exhaust option from Maserati of over $10K.

Factoring inflation, this was a $213,000 car.

I bought it in 1995 (10 years later) for $7,900.00, which factoring inflation is $13,246.00.

That's a $200,000 depreciation in 10 years.

Depreciation of Maseratis is nothing new and has been routinely characteristic of the marque.

The 1985 bodied car screamed outrageousness in its day and was the go-to car for every drug lord and mob boss and made appropriate appearances on Miami Vice. If there was a drug dealer moving millions in dope on that program, you can bet they'd show the goods stuffed into the trunk of a QP.

As a kid, I loved it. It's on-screen intrigue matched it's oddness on the road, with everyone pointing. 4 carburetors atop 4 cams, 8" stainless exhaust narrowing to 4 inch cannons a the tips, 6 shock absorbers, 5mpg with actual pulses of air that would hit your legs as you walked 10 feet behind the car, and a body so wide it simply WOULD NOT fit through the Barnett Bank drive through. It had to be the most inappropriate and impractical car ever made, but I loved it even more for that reason.

Maserati has gone through many downturns, while creating awesome, unconventional cars at the same time. But, with that lack of convention comes lack of demand and that is the reason why they rot standing still when placed on the used car lot.
 
All of the in-house Maserati designs are just not as nice as the Pinnfarina or Italdesign models. The interior materials are still done to the price point in quality and much of the flair has gone from the marque.

Their roll out of new models has been horrible and way too slow. It's a shame to see such a beautifully stitched interior with lackluster leather. The Ghibli is quite a good buy as a used car though. That's doesn't help Maserati's bottom line.

Maserati is in a tough spot. Alfa's are more sporty and better styled. To be fair, Jaguar is in similarly tough spot with aged portfolio and heritage customers not liking their direction either.

Maybe Maserati should jump on the electric bandwagon?
 
My 1985 QPIII had a window sticker approaching $90,000 in 1985 dollars. The car was in perfect condition. I mean PERFECT with 50K miles. That included a machined finished exhaust option from Maserati of over $10K.

Factoring inflation, this was a $213,000 car.

I bought it in 1995 (10 years later) for $7,900.00, which factoring inflation is $13,246.00.

That's a $200,000 depreciation in 10 years.

Depreciation of Maseratis is nothing new and has been routinely characteristic of the marque.

The 1985 bodied car screamed outrageousness in its day and was the go-to car for every drug lord and mob boss and made appropriate appearances on Miami Vice. If there was a drug dealer moving millions in dope on that program, you can bet they'd show the goods stuffed into the trunk of a QP.

As a kid, I loved it. It's on-screen intrigue matched it's oddness on the road, with everyone pointing. 4 carburetors atop 4 cams, 8" stainless exhaust narrowing to 4 inch cannons a the tips, 6 shock absorbers, 5mpg with actual pulses of air that would hit your legs as you walked 10 feet behind the car, and a body so wide it simply WOULD NOT fit through the Barnett Bank drive through. It had to be the most inappropriate and impractical car ever made, but I loved it even more for that reason.

Maserati has gone through many downturns, while creating awesome, unconventional cars at the same time. But, with that lack of convention comes lack of demand and that is the reason why they rot standing still when placed on the used car lot.
I recall one of these made an appearance filled with the Corleone family in The Godfather Part III...

I absolutely never see one of these cars in excellent condition. Aside from the couple of old clunkers sitting around my auto shop in San Jose, I never see one at all.
 
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