The Car I had recently bought from copart was a 2009 Granturismo 4.2. One main incentive on my purchase was having only 20888 miles. As me and my dad were trying to start the car the starter initiated but was not able to crank the engine. We removed the air box to get to the crank. As we tried turning the crank it stopped at one point. Could this be caused by the cylinder hitting the valve or could this be because of the timing belt? We began to look for replacement engines and only could find engines for the 4.7 and the Quatreportte, Could any of these engines be swapped in without any major changes? If you could in any way help a 15 year old figure this out this would be much appreciated, thanks.
Engine swap in a Maserati Granturismo/multi ?
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The Car I had recently bought from copart was a 2009 Granturismo 4.2. One main incentive on my purchase was having only 20888 miles. As me and my dad were trying to start the car the starter initiated but was not able to crank the engine. We removed the air box to get to the crank. As we tried turning the crank it stopped at one point. Could this be caused by the cylinder hitting the valve or could this be because of the timing belt? We began to look for replacement engines and only could find engines for the 4.7 and the Quatreportte, Could any of these engines be swapped in without any major changes? If you could in any way help a 15 year old figure this out this would be much appreciated, thanks.
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as someone who bought and repaired a totalled 2012 convertible sport from copart, my advise world be to part it out ASAP, take the profits and buy a cheap non-totalled one.
not saying it can't be done, but you'll spend more money than it's worth and that's even with buying used parts, doing all the work yourself, and liberal use of duct tape and bailing wire. plus, you'll have to go through the trouble of recertifying it.
if you must swap, the engines are likely interchangeable since they were both available in 2009, but that's just my guess.
not saying it can't be done, but you'll spend more money than it's worth and that's even with buying used parts, doing all the work yourself, and liberal use of duct tape and bailing wire. plus, you'll have to go through the trouble of recertifying it.
if you must swap, the engines are likely interchangeable since they were both available in 2009, but that's just my guess.
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Thanks for responding I've already parted most of my parts and am looking for a new motor which blows my budget out of the water. I am just worried the ECU and transmission from a 4.2 would not match with the 4.7.
I was hoping to at least break even if the price of my car is less than all the other listings
I was hoping to at least break even if the price of my car is less than all the other listings
I'm confident that you won't have any issues with the transmission, but the ECU is definitely not the same between the 4.2 and the 4.7.
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Good to know worst comes to worst i buy a 4.7 ecu and put one of those in, its difficult finding a 4.2 with less than 50k miles
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You need a 4.2 unless you just enjoy pain....The ECM is different on 4.2 to a 4.7 obviously...You can't use a used ECM because it is coded to the body computer, therefore you would need a new one $$$...Stuff doesn't just swap around on a late model car very easily without running into problems...Jason
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are you sure it is the piston hitting anything? if the motor turns it may still be the flywheel/flex plate hitting something like a clutch bolt or starter gear or even something hitting in the transmission. I hope you eliminate everything else first before you spend money on the engine.
Btw here is 4.2 https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/d/upland-maserati-f136r-engine-04-to-08/6786777051.html
Btw here is 4.2 https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/pts/d/upland-maserati-f136r-engine-04-to-08/6786777051.html
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That's great advise me and my dad will move the car to a flat area to look under the car and see what is wrong, because at copart they use a forklift to move cars around and might have punctured or moved one of those components, on the truck when we were getting it shipped to NY from TN there was oil/antifreeze on the truck could this be from a busted oil line or could it be from a puncture hole in the block? thanks, Kurt
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+1 with jacek...The engines in these cars are pretty reliable so you need to measure twice and cut once before you replace the engine..I doubt anything was damaged from moving the car around or transport.. You need to get the car on a lift and do a visual inspection looking for engine damage..I would cut all the belts off it and make sure none of the drive components are messed up....water pump, alternator, etc.. I would also pull all the spark plugs and make sure there isn't fluid in any of the cylinders...Don't get me wrong as I think messing with salvage title cars is crazy, but your 15 so I like your spirit...:grin2: ...Jason
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I like the recommendations of things I would have never would have check without knowing! This was meant to be a car I could fix and learn from with the help from my dad. Being more frugal we will loosen the belts, instead of cut them:wink2: Ill put more pictures so you can see what I'm dealing with.
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Bro, by the time you get that car back together a few belts are gonna be the least of your problems..BTW...The water pump belt has no tensioner so you are cutting it anyway... good luck...J
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I see that you were a technician for Maseratis, My dad is wondering if setting up the timing chain to the cams is difficult, because he has experience working on American and Japanese engines but not Italian. Thanks for answering, Kurt
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It can be difficult, but you are not at that point...There is a method to figuring out what is wrong with a car..You have to look at very basic stuff first....J
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Thanks good to know, I started working in the interior removing the back seats because the frame was bent, so far it feels great to work on. Hope it stays that way, thanks
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Kurt after years of building, restoring cars and motorcycles as a hobby I came to conclusion that one quality rises above all others - PLANNING and ORGANIZING projects. Take your time, do a lot of research before you touch anything. It's time WELL SPENT. I'd say it is most beneficial to the project. OR- we are going to see a very cheap Maserati GT for sale here that "needs some assembly" See many of those every day on ebay.....;-)
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I fully agree with that, planning is everything on a project. That was one of the influences of signing up for this forum. Being a 15 year old with no experience I look forward to staying on this forum and utilizing everyone's advice to achieve my dream first car. will keep you guys updated
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Good point. It is now a Branded Title.
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Hey, I'm in Manhattan. I have an 09 GT (4.2). I am actually planning to swap the front bumper with the version without foglights. So, IF you haven't gotten this far yet, i'll sell you my bumper at a "Cheaper than Ebay" rate, that will help me fund the bumper swap on my 09GT.
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