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I recently purchased DBWEM, springs, brakes and lines and BMC air filter from FD. I had these, with the exception of the DBWEM, installed on Monday-Tuesday by a Ferrari/Aston/Porche shop, and also brought my car into FM for a couple of items on Thursday-Friday. Observations thus far:

- Springs: significant improvement, very little movement from a level horizontal position, including in aggressive highway exit/entry ramps. Lowered car 1.5". Car has an entirely new, 'clean' feel in acceleration through corners, much more point-and go, with the floatiness gone. Taking my wife to dinner last night: Q: "Can you tell a difference in the way the car handles?" A: "Yeah, I'm not being thrown all over the place."

- Brakes/lines: significant improvement, although I'm trying to get rid of a squeal that occurs the last few feet of braking before stopping at lights. They grip hard and stop fast.

- Air filter: I think I feel more slightly more robust engagement from throttle, but that could also be:

- SW upgrade to the CC: FM of Long Island did the upgrade (system was down last time I took it in for that) and I can feel a big difference, much quicker on the up- dna down shift throughout the gears. Still a bit sluggish from a dead start, but the DBWEM should change that.

- Oil change: I was very very suprised to pay $321 for my oil change, after reading about some four-figure oil changes here. I wanted to use the dealer for this while the car's still under warranty, but see no reason why I wouldn't continue.

- Pre-track tech inspection: FM charged me an hour's labor for this, said the car was very clean, looked great. Am tracking the car next week at Pocono.

- Had three electronic issues: First, the "Failure in electronic suspension" light came on. This is located directly under the Sport light. Light came on and off several times after the springs were installed. FM dealer said not to be concerned, this is probably happening due to the lowering and the Skyhook responding to rapid acceleration. But, happened today after I went slowly over a bump. We'll see. Next, the MSP and ABS lights on came on suddenly today on the highway at reasonable speed. Hmmm. When I got off the highway I came to a stop, pushed the MSP button, it stayed on. Shut the car off, started up, the lights were gone. Any ideas on this?

That's all for now.
 

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I recently purchased DBWEM, springs, brakes and lines and BMC air filter from FD. I had these, with the exception of the DBWEM, installed on Monday-Tuesday by a Ferrari/Aston/Porche shop, and also brought my car into FM for a couple of items on Thursday-Friday. Observations thus far:

- Springs: significant improvement, very little movement from a level horizontal position, including in aggressive highway exit/entry ramps. Lowered car 1.5". Car has an entirely new, 'clean' feel in acceleration through corners, much more point-and go, with the floatiness gone. Taking my wife to dinner last night: Q: "Can you tell a difference in the way the car handles?" A: "Yeah, I'm not being thrown all over the place."

- Brakes/lines: significant improvement, although I'm trying to get rid of a squeal that occurs the last few feet of braking before stopping at lights. They grip hard and stop fast.

- Air filter: I think I feel more slightly more robust engagement from throttle, but that could also be:

- SW upgrade to the CC: FM of Long Island did the upgrade (system was down last time I took it in for that) and I can feel a big difference, much quicker on the up- dna down shift throughout the gears. Still a bit sluggish from a dead start, but the DBWEM should change that.

- Oil change: I was very very suprised to pay $321 for my oil change, after reading about some four-figure oil changes here. I wanted to use the dealer for this while the car's still under warranty, but see no reason why I wouldn't continue.

- Pre-track tech inspection: FM charged me an hour's labor for this, said the car was very clean, looked great. Am tracking the car next week at Pocono.

- Had three electronic issues: First, the "Failure in electronic suspension" light came on. This is located directly under the Sport light. Light came on and off several times after the springs were installed. FM dealer said not to be concerned, this is probably happening due to the lowering and the Skyhook responding to rapid acceleration. But, happened today after I went slowly over a bump. We'll see. Next, the MSP and ABS lights on came on suddenly today on the highway at reasonable speed. Hmmm. When I got off the highway I came to a stop, pushed the MSP button, it stayed on. Shut the car off, started up, the lights were gone. Any ideas on this?

That's all for now.
Pete

Just a quick Q: given that FMLI knows about the FD upgrades, do they have a view as to warranty issues..? Just thinking of the MSP issue, maybe the lowering/new springs brought the software controlling the skyhooks into disarray, so it needs to go into the usual "learning" phase, but...

As for the ABS, could be the same thing.

Keep us posted on progress. Maybe hooking a OBD reader will show what error codes triggered the dash lights; that would hopefully give you some additional clues.

Ed
 

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Pete

Just a quick Q: given that FMLI knows about the FD upgrades, do they have a view as to warranty issues..? Just thinking of the MSP issue, maybe the lowering/new springs brought the software controlling the skyhooks into disarray, so it needs to go into the usual "learning" phase, but...

As for the ABS, could be the same thing.

Keep us posted on progress. Maybe hooking a OBD reader will show what error codes triggered the dash lights; that would hopefully give you some additional clues.

Ed

Hi Ed,

They've taken the view that springs and brakes are fine, unless their installation, lowering of the car has a follow-on impact on something. Interesting to note that they would not do the install; seems they recently installed after market wheels on a vehicle, had an unhappy owner. So, F&M/OEM parts only.

The Service Manager did think that some learning would occur. Unfortunately I'm headed back to the UK today so be able to teach it much before I head off to the track next weekend.

Bigfoot, yes much better shape thank you. I can't help but think back to some other posts here after the FD mods, where people said that this is what the car should have been from the factory. But, I'm happy nonetheless.
 

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We have had no reports until now of a skyhook light coming on after installation until now. As always we're here for any support you may need. Glad to hear you're enjoying the upgrades!
 

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Well, I know of at least one other one - me. So this makes two.
I contacted Jeff at FD a year ago when I experienced the same issue. Took my car to the dealer and they tried all the sensors, etc..., and eventually said it was a crimped wire (probably from the spring install ?!?!?!). Problem went a way for a while, and came back with hot weather, and then went away. Never felt any difference in ride or handling with warning light on or off.
Mike

We have had no reports until now of a skyhook light coming on after installation until now. As always we're here for any support you may need. Glad to hear you're enjoying the upgrades!
 

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Mike,

You did mention this to me. However, I thought you said your light was related to a pre-existing condition or installation issue? In any case, I didn't remember hearing back from you to know that the symptom came back again. My notes were that your car had spent some time lowered before installing our springs and that you had believed that it may have been related to that.

I have never witnessed an event like this. It sounds like it's not throwing a code but is an intermittent issue. I would be suspect of the skyhook wires during installation. Perhaps they were either stretched or pinched. Honestly, the way we install the springs would not cause either of these conditions as skyhook cars do not need to have the shocks removed but I know some installers do remove the shocks during installation.

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Yes, an alignment is required if the ride height was changed. Most if not all of our customers lower the car when they install our springs. In any case, it's probably a good idea.
 
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