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From what I am told and learned from some locals here in Maine Ka band is most used....is that old or newer than X band?
 

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I think it mostly depends upon the budget of the local police and the replacement schedule of their equipment. Some locales are using old equipment.

I used to be a religious user of a V1. As I'm planning a cross country trip, I need to dust if off and figure the best mounting in the QP.

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Supposedly X is the oldest of all bands, so K , KA, must be newer, and likely better technology . I use a Passport ( Escort ) radar detector and it keeps picking up K bands all the time , but I read those are mostly used for communications between police cars, stations, etc and X is more common to speed radars . Who knows though , it depends what report one reads at any given time and from what source . I also read that laser guns used by police nowadays cannot be detected in advance by any device , though some mfg like Bell ( I think, but I could have them confused with another brand ) claimed their state of the art radar detectors will also pick up lasers , but acknowledged that by the time they do it's too late and that your car was already clocked . Oh great, that's some comfort ..adds insult to injury :frown2:
 

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My several year old V1 has always done an EXCELLENT job of picking up laser. Saved my bacon on dozens of occasions. Got a warning once while doing well over 100mph, hit the binders real hard. Cop gave me the finger as I drove by, because he obviously saw me going (ahem....) kind of fast, but could not get a solid reading.

Working a speed radar is much like shooting a pistol. It has a fairly narrow beam. You have to "shoot" something reflective on the car to have it bounce back. Grab a pistol and try to shoot something 1/4 mile away. Not easy. What they end up doing is kind of "painting" the front of the car, hoping to find something reflective. License plate is good. But if you slam on the brakes real fast, you can often slow down before they get a decent reflection.

BTW, that is why Corvettes for the last couple of decades have front license plates that slant upward. Shine a laser on it and it bounces upward, not back at the source. Grab a laser pointer and try it!

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PS: Often you will get a laser warning while the cop is trying to get a reading on the car in front of you.
 

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Yup, good to know. So ( Hans ) does the V1 give you a warning only when the the laser is activated and pointing in a fairly straight line view of your car and / or other cars , or will you also get an alert if the police is maybe obscured like when you're coming over a hill and they're right below the crest, or maybe around a curve or , or a similar " out of plain new " scenario ? And do tiny know , or does the manual indicate approximately the range V1 has for lucking up the laser signal ?

As for modifying your car in any way to deflect a laser signal ( you can even buy electronic laser jamming , blocking devices, just can't lawfully use them, lol ) I don't know about other states but the penalties in CA are pretty severe if you're caught .
 

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The V1 seems to be quite sensitive. I believe it is just looking for IR light in a specific frequency range, or maybe the beam carries other info, like pulses. So, obviously, it will trigger if the detector is looking right at the cop's laser beam.

But I have gotten other indirect readings. Laser does poorly in fog, but if they try to use it when it is a bit hazy, it seems the beam scatters a bit, sort of lighting up the sky in the immediate vicinity. At least that's what I conjecture, because I have gotten readings under these conditions where I'm not directly in the beam's path. Also, the beam can get reflected in convoluted ways. For example, maybe the beam hits the chrome bumper of a truck. It is then reflected to a nearby sign, and then back to me. A number of my warnings seem to arrive in this way, as when I get them, the source (cop car) is not at all visible to me.

As for around corners, over crest of hill, etc. it normally will not pick up such emissions. But occasionally, there is some object (sign, fence, whatever) that may/might give a reflection adequate enough to trigger the detector. But even if not, remember that he has to see you, then "shoot" you, and try to target you well enough to get a usable bounce off of your car. If your reactions are quick enough, you can often hammer the brakes hard enough to slow down before he gets a usable reading off of you.

The V1 has a rather harsh laser alarm. All LEDS on the face flash brightly, and it emits a very loud obnoxious noise not unlike the fire alarm in my house. When I hear this, my immediate reaction is to stomp on the brake hard into full ABS mode. It's an instinctive response. After you re-start your heart, you should find that you're speed is down to legal levels.

The police laser is infrared (thus not visible). But if you take an ordinary red laser pointer and play around with it, you can get an idea of how it works. Like shine it into some fog or rain. Try illuminating the front of your car and see what really lights up, etc. Dark colors - and blue - don't reflect well. Chrome obviously does. Oregon has several options of license plate designs, and I chose the Crater Lake plates because they are blue. The lettering is white, but I figured that if I could get as much of the surface non-reflective it is better than the luminescent white plate that is standard issue. Of course, currently this is a bit of a moot issue, as I haven't mounted the front plate to the QP.

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Yup, sure looks like it .. I hear that's still the easiest band to detect , but it seems the majority of patrol cars in the US use it .:|
I haven't seen X band used in years. The last time I saw it was in Los Angeles five years ago. It's possible they still use it, but since the city doesn't use radar much (too much traffic), I couldn't tell you for sure. Most agencies in the West use Ka band or laser.
 

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For a few years, it seemed like Oregon State Police (OSP) was using laser exclusively on I5. But recently, there seems to be a trend back to radar. I suspect they found it a bit too difficult to use the laser, having to accurately point it and needing reasonable if not good weather. Anyway, been getting much fewer laser warnings than in the past.

In populated areas, Waze seems to be about as good as a detector.

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Just completed a 4 week cross country trip. Returning home, on the next to last day, I get a speeding ticket. In Nevada, of all places. Had been playing tag with a BMW at mostly 110 or so on a 2 lane highway, slowed slightly only to get hit with "instant on" radar from an oncoming cop just cresting a hill. Crap. But they were nice about it, told me to slow down, send $75 to the provided address, and it would not go on my driving record. Cool.

And I did slow down.......

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Just completed a 4 week cross country trip. Returning home, on the next to last day, I get a speeding ticket. In Nevada, of all places. Had been playing tag with a BMW at mostly 110 or so on a 2 lane highway, slowed slightly only to get hit with "instant on" radar from an oncoming cop just cresting a hill. Crap. But they were nice about it, told me to slow down, send $75 to the provided address, and it would not go on my driving record. Cool.
And I did slow down.......
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Time to sacrifice a chicken to the traffic gods, or go buy a lotto ticket :wink2: , that's a very fortunate outcome ! I don't recall for sure, but I think Nevada may be one of just two or three states where the speed violation and associated penalties are based on a rather odd criteria of "excessive gas consumption - energy waste" , as opposed to the usual "unsafe speed" most other states codes cite. So the penalties and other consequences are far less in those couple of states. Maybe someone who knows the rules in NV can confirm if that's true or not :|

In California for example you're looking at probably a $ 500 -$ 750 tab just for the speed itself, and then if you end up with an officer who is not too forgiving , at over 100 mph you can easily get tagged with reckless driving & public endangerment, a one year license suspension, probably another $ 2,500 + in legal fees to keep you out of jail, your car may be impounded, so on and so forth.. Almost as bad as a DUI. Now, driving a Maserati may get you some leniency from either the police who stops you and /or the court system, unlike a 20-something year old driving a Honda or a Mustang at 110 MPH who will definitely be in a world of hurt when caught and given no slack at all. But then again you can be unlucky and get pulled over by a cop who may be envious of exotic car drivers and end up just like that kid driving a Mustang :frown2:

So either way, good this happened in Nevada :smile2::smile2:
 

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And now this : https://news.yahoo.com/american-autobahn-next-states-pushing-111617225.html
As great as that sounds, I'm not sure it'll ever work here ; many ( if not a majority ) of drivers in the US simply do not have the discipline , or the skill ( I know I'll catch some flak for that comment ) or the willingness to observe the protocol of the road which is essential at triple digit speeds. Maybe in time but the " I own the road " and " I'm a better driver than you " mentality that seems to prevail here is going to cause some serious problems ..
 

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In the UK Fines are standardised at £100 + 3 points on your licence. Get 12 points in 3 years and you get a six month ban. If you exceed the speed limit substantially you have to go to court and all options are possible, even prison. The first time you are caught you get the option of attending a "Speed Awareness" course and they let you off the points.

I used to got to France regularly when I had a Ferrari and we used to cruise at 120mph. They never followed up speeding tickets back to the UK but they do now. Not only that , if they catch you at 115mph + they can confiscate the car.

Swtzerland also has variable fines coupled with the worst drivers in Europe. Some of my Ferarri friends were caught overtaking a Lorry on double white lines. A snitch Swiss driver filmed them on his dash cam and reported them to the police. They received an interim fine of 1200 euros and when they were back home received a further 800 euros fine!

No wonder we want to leave the Common Market!
 

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The article stated, "The wreckage is currently being investigated to determine whether the vehicle was in a safe driving condition." The most idiotic statement i've seen in a long time!!!
Extremely sad, especially for the young lady's family and friends. The boy's father might as well have just handed his son a loaded gun and a blindfold instead of the car keys....
 
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