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Hello people,

I am a driver of a Porsche 993 C4 from Holland and am thinking of changing to a maserati 3200 or 4200 GT. As I would drive it on a daily basis it should be reliable. My 993 is probably one of the most reliable cars existing.


Now I have a question. On the german Maserati-forum I read to my surprise that the 3200 GT V8 engine is likely to "explode" or at least have major damage between 100.000 and 150.000km (60.000mls-100.000). The repairbill in case this major enginefailure should occur would be up to € 10.000,- (European prices). If buying a 3200 GT with 60.000mls on the clock they recommended to have reservefund just in case. Do you in America now about this alleged darkside of the 3200 GT V8?

Is the 4200 GT V8 engine an improvement in this area or is the 4200 engine likewise known to suddenly "die" after takling a certain amount of miles/km? Can one say the 4200 V8 is definitly better and more reliable than his older brother?

I am looking forward to your answers because they may be decisive for my decision to trade in my 993.

Anouther question is if you think a 4200 GT is a car that can be used safely in the winter too? where I live wintertempratures vary from minus 5 degrees to + 8 degrees.

Many regards from Holland!

Jos Janssen
 

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Hi Jos

No experience of the 3200, but I drive a 4200 Spyder daily in the UK. It's never let me down in 18 months and all the comments on this forum relating to the 4200 engine is that you can drive it as hard as you like without worrying about it.

My mechanic, who is a UK Maserati specialist said to save a little more money and buy a 4200 over a 3200 as they're much more reliable and easier to work on. Not sure how true that is not being a Maserati mechanic, but on current experience I have no regrets !

When people see a Porsche driving down the road it hardly gets a second glance, it's just another Porsche 911 variant, whereas with a Maser they stop and stare and you can see them mouthing "wow ! it's a Maserati" !

That's a very nice feeling when you're sat in the driver's seat and sometimes you just have to give it some, to please the onlookers and the small boy inside us all !

Good luck with your search - you won't regret it whatever you buy, but get full service history etc etc.

Cheers

CJ
 

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Why are you looking to get out of the Porsche?

I love my Maserati 2004 very much; manual 6 speed on the floor and I have only had it about 6 weeks....my brother has a 1996 993 Twin Turbo all wheel drive(as you know) and while I luv my 4200 it cannot comptete with the Porsche; not just in HP but its much lighter and the all wheel drive; well...I have driven it,owned a Lotus, 3 corvettes including a 2006 Z06,an XKR(2005) and a 360.. his Porsche is a bat out of hell....so you must want more than performance I presume?:confused:
 

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Hi Jos

I drive a 4200GT (manual transmission) every day come rain or shine and have to agree with Crapjokes, it has never let me down. Having said that it is not the best car in snow or ice, I would imagine your 4WD 993 would be much better, but guess it depends where you do most of your driving, I live in London where it is not such an issue for me. Also agree that the whole ownership experience is so much better than owning just another 911, no offence intended, it is so much rarer to see one and people behave very well towards it. Good luck in your search and let us know how you get o, you won't regret it.

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Carl
 

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Thank you for your reactions!

Comparing the 993 twin turbo with a standard 993 C4 as sheer performance is concerned is not fair to my car. The 993 TT is of course the much faster car. The 993 TT is in the Netherlands dificult to find and far more expensive than my standard car. The biggest problem with it though is that I don't like the rear wing of the car. I only like the wing of a 911 to come out at certain speeds.

Should I change I would not do this for more HP. I'm not a fast (or crazy) driver. I also certainly would not change because of how other people would looke at my car. I realy like the looks of a Maserati 3200 and a 4200 GT and I have owned three 911s uptill now. Maybe it's time for a change. With buying a 4200 GT (what would I guess the better and more reliable car compared to the 3200 GT) however I would not buy the first thing that attracted me to the 3200 GT. I mean the rear lights of the 3200. There is a Maserati specialist in the Netherlands who advertises with rearlight conversions. Would either of you consider this?

The "man from London" I would like to ask if he has had the negative experience in the snow and on ice on wintertires or on normal tires driven in winter?
Winters in Holland are not very hard anymore, so I think a good set of wintertires should take a 4200 through the winter allright apart from maybe a couple of non driveable winterdays. What do you think?

Greetings from Holland!

Jos Janssen
 

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I've got a gransport & have had no problem on summer tyres (near london in the UK) They are surprisingly tractable in the wet\snow. You need some restraint though, obviously.
 

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Regarding the 3200 engine life issues - these are specific to the 3200 and the best source of info I have found on this is in the UK forum, esp. this thread:
http://www.maseratiforum.co.uk/tm.asp?m=4636

But then I have also seen postings about a 3200 with 142,000 miles on it and still running well?

I can report that the 4200 handles as poorly as you would expect on two inches of fresh snow (!) but then winter tyres might help! And as you say - fortunately only had to drive in snow on two occasions - neither planned!
 

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3200gt vs 4200 gt vs porsche

3200gt exterior looks great but had issues with pre 2001 model. Also it is belt driven and need a proper expert to change it and very expensive, it is only 370 BHP when new and slightly less for an older one I presume. Check for service history and obtain low mileage and few owners with comprehensive warranty. I prefer manual but automatics are easier to drive. The throttle response is awsome! If price and color and options is right then go for it.

I have a 4200 gt cc with TUBI and I like to think its a Ferrari -well half a Ferrari at least as it has the chain driven Ferrari engine froma F430 as I have beeen told by dealer. Only real prob is with Clutch and F1 pump and relay but you should be OK living in a flat country like \Holland. I try and look after my cars by myself with help from good people from forums like this one-very very helpful.

I also have a porsche 928 s4 which I drive because it is a porsche supercar. No traction etc and park wherever but have to be more careful with Maserati.

Italian styling, strong racing heritage,exclusive and Ferrari affiliation with TUBI is out of this world. I get cameraphoned all the time and feel as if I am a movie star.

My advice-keep porsche and buy a Maserati if possible. Dont know much about driving in the snow and rain. I have cheaper cars for that.
The 3200 was only for the EU market.
Finally dont get a rubbish color combination. Get Black, silver Blue. Green/yellow/white is a big no no in europe as you may know already.

If you go for the 3200 thenn must have the RED key otherwise £5000 required for new keys and ECU and programming.
For 4200 must have 2 code cards-no RED key. and women repellant spray unless they are blonde and beautiful and single under the age of 25! Dont forget to keep the 4200 on sport mode and never reverse up inclines. Oil change and spark plug change etc. can be done yourself.
The 3200 that is good is the limited edition one- I forget the name) but you have to pay the high price.

good luck from UK.
Feel free to give my details to Dutch women (only good looking ones).
 
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