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I took delivery of my used QP yesterday, which I was hoping to be one of those great days of once life that you remember years later. Unfortunately, didn't turn out that way; the dealer (Maranello in St Albans outside London, UK) is amaturish having gone through a management change recently and having hired a bunch of new "top" salesmen from other car makes. These guys might be star salesmen in flogging a Audi or Lexus to somebody, but just don't understand that buying a Ferrari/Maserati is supposed to be special experience and you really don't want to be waiting for 20min for them to look for a PIN for the nav system and that a flat battery when you sit in your new car isn't terribly impressive. Anyway, the dealership aside I thought I would share a few first impressions of owning a QP.

The drive keeps getting better with every miles, I am slowly learning the F1 paddleshifter and taming the engine, having never really driven anything above 200hp. The QP is very smooth in every respect and doesn't suffer the usual problems of a super sports cars; too hard suspension, tire or other noise, "nightclub bouncer" styling, useless backseats etc. In fact it never cross my mind before, but the QP is a actually a coupe, which has been extended so much that four doors fit into the coupe shape. This car is absolutely massive.

Nobody buys these cars for their fuel economy, but still I am shocked at the consumption (11mpg). For our US based drivers, filling the tank of 90l probably seems expensive, but in the UK the 90l sets you back GBP90, which is about $150. I used 1/4 of a tank driving home from the dealer!

A few small things that I hate; the gearbox, brilliant as it is at speed, is useless in a garage or in slow precision driving (parking, garages, slow approaches). The satnav is awfully slow and keeps freezing up (here I have to admit that I choose moble phones based on responsivness). Althought the hifi has very nice sound quality, unless you turn the whole unit off, there is a static noise coming from the speakers. There seems to be no way to have the satnav on without music unless you want to listed to static. Maybe if my QP wouldn't have the glasspack, this wouldn't be a problem, but it is totally silent in the cabin which is amazing feeling in a car (Merc S class doesn't compare). For somebody considering getting the glasspack - don't order it if you enjoy hearing the engining sound. The isolation is very good and I actually have to open a window when I floor it in second gear to hear that sweet spinning / purring sound at 4700 rpm, which is the reason we all love Maserati so much...


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I hear you on the mileage. When I buy my Maserati, it won't be my daily driver as I do around 100 miles a day...Sorry to hear about your experience. I am sure it will get better

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There's a special transmission mode "particularly suited to parking maneuvers" for the cambiocorsa. I'm not sure if it's the same for the QP

To engage: hit the down paddle while in first. You should hear a beep and the gear indicator should start to flash. DOWNshifting again cancels the special mode.

I get about 14 MPG but between the high gas prices post katrina and the 23 gallon tank, I spent $73 on a single tank - the most I've ever spent on gas at one pumping.
 

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Toffe said:
...Maybe if my QP wouldn't have the glasspack, this wouldn't be a problem, but it is totally silent in the cabin which is amazing feeling in a car (Merc S class doesn't compare). For somebody considering getting the glasspack - don't order it if you enjoy hearing the engining sound. The isolation is very good and I actually have to open a window when I floor it in second gear to hear that sweet spinning / purring sound at 4700 rpm, which is the reason we all love Maserati so much...
Toffe, congrats!
what color and options are with your QP?

btw, we do not get the glass pack option in north america. but:

"The Quattroporte ’s standard equipment, which includes laminated glazing, can be upgraded with a Pilkington Glass Pack comprising front (side and windscreen) infra-red reflecting laminated windows and Privacy rear laminated windows (side and rear windscreen)*. The front windows consist of two sheets of glass separated by a special infra-red reflecting treated film, which reflects a high percentage of heat outwards, thus ensuring better thermal insulation for the car ’s interior. What ’s more, the windscreen ’s internal film does not include any metal coatings: this means that it does not cause any radio-frequency interference, allowing the use of all the most widely available electronic devices. The darkened glazing (35%) installed at the rear protects passengers ’ privacy, as well as eliminating almost all UV radiation. Both reflected sunlight and the sensation of heat are also partially deflected, improving the efficiency of the climate control system. The combination of laminated and arkened glazing assures passengers the best a window package can offer in terms of comfort, privacy and active and passive safety.
(*) Please note that for reasons of road transport approval, on some markets the option may be unavailable."

i see they mention thermal insulation, but does it have any improved sound insulation? someone who have sit in both cars, any comments?
 

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Hi,
I also picked my new QP up this weekend, and its quite an upgrade from my old VW Phaeton.

The Gearbox is going to take some getting used to, but its not a problem. The engine sounds glorious and on my 250 mile trip back from the dealer on Sunday I managed 19mpg. :rolleyes:

The cars an ex-demo with 4k miles on the clock, pretty much all the extras a grown boy could need and IMO the perfect colour combo.

Not great pictures, we had snow when I was picking the car up, so its covered in salt, I'll take some better ones when the sun shows his head again.


 

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QP glasspack

JohnH - congrats, the black/tan combo does look very nice. Mine is grigio alferi/grey leather, which doesn't look as spectacular, but I prefer a slightly more discreet look of the grey.

Glasspack its indeed by UK company called Pilkinton (inventor of floating glass production method) and although intended for thermal insulation, the strucutre is so thick that it blocks sound as well. Pilkington specialises in all types of glass for special applications:
http://www.pilkington.com/automotive+international/products/default.htm

I have sat in non-glasspack QPs but the sound insulation a subtle thing you start to notice only after a while. From the side windows one can see that the structure is about 10mm thick with two "standard" car windows joined together with a film in between. The rear and side windows in the back are darkened, but not limo-style dark, so you can still see through both ways. For me the glasspack is great and an option actually worth bothering with.

I also have the comfort seats and can say that they are a waste of time. The fan for summer ventilation makes the seat vibrate, so I cannot keen it on. There is a neat detail though with the driver seat: it moves slightly back and the steering column raises when you open the door to make it easier to get out of the car.

Thanks for the tip about parking gear switch, I will try that today and hope that the QP has it as well.

Is it normal to be able to hear the gear changes, for example when braking into a red light and the cambiocorse automatically switching down? Maybe this is thanks to the sound isolation as well...?

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Wow, that color combo looks better than expected, sharp car, congrats!

But looks like steering wheel is on the wrong side, maybe you can get that fixed under warranty... <g>
 

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Special Transmission Mode

Steeldream said:
There's a special transmission mode "particularly suited to parking maneuvers" for the cambiocorsa. I'm not sure if it's the same for the QP

To engage: hit the down paddle while in first. You should hear a beep and the gear indicator should start to flash. DOWNshifting again cancels the special mode.

I get about 14 MPG but between the high gas prices post katrina and the 23 gallon tank, I spent $73 on a single tank - the most I've ever spent on gas at one pumping.
I have not heard of this "special transmission mode" before. I could not get this to work per your instructions in my 2004 Coupe. In slow parking garage manuevers while in first gear, my car will engage and disengage the clutch at about 1300 RPM's. How does your car behave when you activate the special mode? It would be nice to get the car to stay in gear down to a lower RPM for slow speed manuevering and reduce clutch wear.
 

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JackintheMaz said:
I have not heard of this "special transmission mode" before. I could not get this to work per your instructions in my 2004 Coupe. In slow parking garage manuevers while in first gear, my car will engage and disengage the clutch at about 1300 RPM's. How does your car behave when you activate the special mode? It would be nice to get the car to stay in gear down to a lower RPM for slow speed manuevering and reduce clutch wear.
I tried it this morning on my '05 Cambiocorsa and I could not get it to work either - not sure if I did it properly. I hit the 'down' paddle while in 1st, both stopped and rolling. Maybe this feature isn''t on US models?
 

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Parking Maneuver

I've engaged this by accident on a couple of occasions and wondered what the hell was going on. So I finally looked it up.

Here's the info from the Owners' Manual p. 122 (this is for the cambiocorsa gearbox 2002 Spyder US Model):

Parking maneuver

With the first or reverse gear engaged and pulling the DOWN lever it is possible to select a special gearbox operating mode, which is particularly suited to parking maneuvers, especially on downhill stretches. The activation of this mode is indicated by a beep and the engaged gear symbol on the display flashes alternately with a dash. The system automatically resets to the standard operating mode when the conditions required for activating the parking maneuver are no longer present or if the DOWN lever is operated again.

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Steeldream said:
I've engaged this by accident on a couple of occasions and wondered what the hell was going on. So I finally looked it up.

Here's the info from the Owners' Manual p. 122 (this is for the cambiocorsa gearbox 2002 Spyder US Model):

Parking maneuver

With the first or reverse gear engaged and pulling the DOWN lever it is possible to select a special gearbox operating mode, which is particularly suited to parking maneuvers, especially on downhill stretches. The activation of this mode is indicated by a beep and the engaged gear symbol on the display flashes alternately with a dash. The system automatically resets to the standard operating mode when the conditions required for activating the parking maneuver are no longer present or if the DOWN lever is operated again.

YMMV
Well, I tried the 'special gearbox operating mode' again coming home from work today and still could not get it to work on my '05 Cambio. When in doubt, read the manual - I then spent the next 30-40 min scouring the manual, all to no avail. Guess the '05's don't have it..... or at least I can't find it - sounds like a neat feature for parking, moving slowly in a neighborhood of kids, etc. If anyone discovers that the '05 really has this feature, I would love to find out.
 

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Maybe it has been superseded after 2002. OR if you're talking about a QP the transmission is different from the Cambiocorsa. I think they call it DuoSelect.

I tested it out today and there's no mystery or trick to it. If you're in first and pull the down paddle the dash beeps, the indicator flashes and you can toodle along at walking speed as long as you like. As soon as the revs climb above 1300-1500 it self cancels.
 

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Tried in my GS, downshifting while on first does nothing. Something must have changed.
 

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Steeldream said:
Maybe it has been superseded after 2002. OR if you're talking about a QP the transmission is different from the Cambiocorsa. I think they call it DuoSelect.

I tested it out today and there's no mystery or trick to it. If you're in first and pull the down paddle the dash beeps, the indicator flashes and you can toodle along at walking speed as long as you like. As soon as the revs climb above 1300-1500 it self cancels.

Steeldream thanks for the info. I checked my manual last night also - no info about the parking manuever. As I said my car does not respond with the 2002 directions in your manual. It appears that the 2004 Coupe no longer has this transmission option. It would be nice if it could be programmed back in. I will check with my dealer here in Denver. It seems from your description that clutch wear would be reduced at low speeds if you could keep the car in gear below 1300 RPM's.
 
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