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So I found an 87 biturbo Si for sale on facebook marketplace. I'm interested, however, I know these cars can be an absolute piece of trash if its not a tip top condition one! So what better place to ask advice than here? Basically the jist of it is that it looks pristine inside and out, has no rust and has 57,000 original miles. the part I'm worried about, however, is the internals. The seller says that both turbos have recently been rebuilt but one of the turbine shafts has some pitting that's leaking oil into the exhaust. He sourced one on ebay from a isuzu rodeo? Not 100% sure that would fit but he seems pretty confident. It's a garage kept 3 owner car, he being the 3rd. He says it has not seen regular road use since 2006. The second owner quit using it due to a leak in the clutch cable that the 3rd owner fixed. He says it starts, idles, shifts, and drives well. He used it for the first month or so of ownership and then found the leak in the turbo and quit using it. Basically I'm mostly conflicted on the fact it's been sitting so long and the other is time. I plan on doing most of the maintenance myself. Is this gonna suck me in like I've read it will? Just looking for some opinions from current and former owners. Any help will be massively appreciated. I'll post a link to the car below.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320800005250184/?ref=messenger_banner
 

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Not super familiar with these old ones, but I have worked on a few..Not the pinnacle of engineering excellence...For $3600.00 that is a pretty cool old car, but you probably need to do all the work yourself for it to make sense.....Not that hard to fix honestly....Jason
 

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These cars are very temperamental. They can be very fast, though. Only pointers I can give are:

1. Change the oil every 2K miles with synthetic. Otherwise the turbos will overheat and have problems;
2. Grease the driveshaft bushings. It's in the service paperwork. Otherwise they will wear prematurely and you'll get the trademark vibration;
3. Check/test all the electronics. The fuse boxes have weak conductor boards and they will begin to separate. I had to replace mine. It was a direct Ferrari Mondial swap.

It has been years since I've owned these but it was very hard to find a well sorted example, and that was in the 1990s! The '89-'92s are the best to get but nowadays they are unicorns.
 

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I own an 87 SpyderI and am just putting it back on the road after an 8 year stint as a conversation piece. You will most likely have issues with leaking steering rack, clutch hydraulics, and brakes (no surprise - same with any car) if you buy it. Issues are some of the parts - especially rear brake parts are very hard to get and pricey. Car starts first spin every time and is a blast to drive - but I never let my AAA card get far from reach when I leave home. It has not let me down yet, but there have been moments......... Filling it up with fuel on a hot Florida is a challenge - one must be patient as it tends to spit back at you, which given the location of the filler neck is not so great for the paint or the boot cover.
Don't plan on making any money, drive it and enjoy it - the naysayers who have never driven a later model injected/5 speed car have no clue what they are talking about. Love the gearbox and the exhaust note with the top down, this car is slowly but surely chipping away at my Jag loyalty.
 

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Hey there Erik. Thanks for the input. I've been investigating the fuse box issue on the whole and, gleaning from an older thread, it turns out there is some kit to reroute the turbos to another device to lighten the load on the fuse box. I've also read there is a guy here in Texas by the name of Ron Carlson that does good work on them. But I can't find anything else on him. And since you mentioned the turbos, I heard tell of one guy removing both turbos from his. Aside from reducing the horse power, I wonder if that did anything to improve the reliability of the engine... But yeah I'll keep all of this in mind! Thanks again. Here's a link to that thread
https://www.maseratilife.com/forums/biturbo-maserati/72194-maintenance-improve-reliability.html
 

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Honestly, those V6 engines are made for the twin turbo setup. I've driven the older ones but the only one I owned at length was the 228, which was the latest US variation of the Biturbo. It was real fast. The fuse box may have changed over the years. I know, even in the early '90s when I had mine, there were age-related issues, so I don't suspect those things improve with age. In summary, there are cool hobby cars, so if you have the room and the resources, and the patience, they're fun. Did you ever get this car?
 

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Honestly, those V6 engines are made for the twin turbo setup. I've driven the older ones but the only one I owned at length was the 228, which was the latest US variation of the Biturbo. It was real fast. The fuse box may have changed over the years. I know, even in the early '90s when I had mine, there were age-related issues, so I don't suspect those things improve with age. In summary, there are cool hobby cars, so if you have the room and the resources, and the patience, they're fun. Did you ever get this car?
No I didn't. As much as I'd adore owning one, I just won't have the time for it. I work full time and I'm going back to school so, unless I used it as a daily which I've heard is an awful idea, it just won't make any sense. Thanks for the feedback though i do appreciate it.
 

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So I found an 87 biturbo Si for sale on facebook marketplace. I'm interested, however, I know these cars can be an absolute piece of trash if its not a tip top condition one! So what better place to ask advice than here? Basically the jist of it is that it looks pristine inside and out, has no rust and has 57,000 original miles. the part I'm worried about, however, is the internals. The seller says that both turbos have recently been rebuilt but one of the turbine shafts has some pitting that's leaking oil into the exhaust. He sourced one on ebay from a isuzu rodeo? Not 100% sure that would fit but he seems pretty confident. It's a garage kept 3 owner car, he being the 3rd. He says it has not seen regular road use since 2006. The second owner quit using it due to a leak in the clutch cable that the 3rd owner fixed. He says it starts, idles, shifts, and drives well. He used it for the first month or so of ownership and then found the leak in the turbo and quit using it. Basically I'm mostly conflicted on the fact it's been sitting so long and the other is time. I plan on doing most of the maintenance myself. Is this gonna suck me in like I've read it will? Just looking for some opinions from current and former owners. Any help will be massively appreciated. I'll post a link to the car below.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320800005250184/?ref=messenger_banner
I've owned a 1987 SI from new. Still completely stock. Now have 40k miles. I will tell you there are a number of issues to look out for (besides the Turbo issue): steering rack; timing belt; water pump, etc. These are fairly major issues, but can be accomplished by a capable and patient shade tree mechanic. Parts are available from MIE, who are very helpful. But it's not for the faint of heart. Don't think of it as a 2nd car -- but more as a 'project car'. Love ours, but it needs tending pretty frequently.
 

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Just looking for some opinions from current and former owners. Any help will be massively appreciated. I'll post a link to the car below.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320800005250184/?ref=messenger_banner
If it is still on, it is a bargain, but your budget has to be at least 10000 US. 3000 for the car, and 7000 for good and thorough service and detailing. Afterwards you will have a great and reliable car for years to come. The Biturbos Si are relaible enough, unlike the first 2 series of Biturbos.
 
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