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I live in Michigan, basically drove my car from May (came out late this year), through probably around November. I'll have approx 1000-1500 miles on this oil change. I'll store it from November some time through until probably April.
In the spring of 2020 would you change your oil and filter (i have in the past) even with so little mileage or would you go 2 years?
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I think the OP is talking about more about a storage issue then mileage..I'm not a fan of letting cars sit..So if I was storing the car and could start it once every 1-2 weeks and let it run for like 10 minutes then that factors in as well...I just worked on a M138 Spyder....18k miles...Sat 10 years...No kidding...Battery bad, fuel pumps bad, & tires bad...You can mess a car up by letting it sit....Letting the car run occasionally does wonders for all the seals, battery, etc....Jason
 

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Funny, I have been trained do end of season detail, Stabil, pump up tires to ~45 lbs, tender, cover and wake up in spring. If you are going to run it, it is imperative to bring everything to full operating temps. I used to do the midwinter starup for 10-15 minutex, and was politely corrected by a master tech..some may know from a long running show. Personally, I'd do oil change every other year. In the spring , take car out for a couple hour, non-stop run to let filters do their respective jobs. I have done this for 20+ yrs and never had any issues whatsoever.
 

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Funny, I have been trained do end of season detail, Stabil, pump up tires to ~45 lbs, tender, cover and wake up in spring. If you are going to run it, it is imperative to bring everything to full operating temps. I used to do the midwinter starup for 10-15 minutex, and was politely corrected by a master tech..some may know from a long running show. Personally, I'd do oil change every other year. In the spring , take car out for a couple hour, non-stop run to let filters do their respective jobs. I have done this for 20+ yrs and never had any issues whatsoever.
Probably a lot of different opinions on car storage and to each their own..I just give my advice based on 30 years doing this and it is free. Are we supposed to guess what TV personality told you this information?? You name dropped without giving a name or something..? Just saying...Jason
 

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I don't understand how or why someone would own a Maserati and give it an oil change every other year...just don't get it...even if you only put 1000km a year on it. How much of an investment is an oil change? And I'd rather side with a 30 year + Maserati specialist than some TV generic car specialist.
 

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I don't understand how or why someone would own a Maserati and give it an oil change every other year...just don't get it...even if you only put 1000km a year on it. How much of an investment is an oil change? And I'd rather side with a 30 year + Maserati specialist than some TV generic car specialist.
Why only once a year? Why not once a month? (Not disagreeing with Jason in this case BTW)

Conversely I don't get the occasional obsession of changing the oil more frequently than Maserati say.

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I don't understand how or why someone would own a Maserati and give it an oil change every other year...just don't get it...even if you only put 1000km a year on it. How much of an investment is an oil change? And I'd rather side with a 30 year + Maserati specialist than some TV generic car specialist.
Well, it's a little more complicated than that.

I agree, cost shouldn't be a problem for any Maserati owner (shouldn't be a problem for cars a fith of the price really), or you shouldn't own one in the first place, but having fresh oil constantly in your engine is not a good thing. Especially when it comes to modern oils formulated for very long oil change intervals, a lot of volatile compounds need to "burn out" (ending up in the intake system) for the oil to achieve peak efficiency. At least this is what some people claim, and if you head to the oil bible forums - which I don't really recommend, as you'll just waste a lot of time reading contradiction opinions and you'll end up a lot more confused :) - you'll see a lot of people working in the oil industry backing this claim.

Anyway, if the car is stored for half a year, the (potential) damage new oil does to the engine, is preferable rather than having stale oxidated oil in the engine.
 

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I typically drive more than I did this past year, been really busy with work all summer and just haven't had much time to enjoy the car. I work from home which compounds the issue, I just haven't driven much at all. Back in the conventional oil days I changed oil religiously every 3k miles (I never would hit 1 year so time never mattered). Since full synthetics I changed to every 5k miles or 1 year. Since having my everyday plus a summer car that I would store in the winter I would always just change the oil in the spring, i'm just going to keep doing that regardless of how few miles on it. I've decided to change the spark plugs, coolant, differential gear oil, filters (cabin and regular air), clean throttle body as well before I take it out this next spring, doing the oil will be easy since I'll have all the covers off already.

Thank u guys for your input.

One quick question in coolant, I read somewhere that they use the same coolant as BMW, is that true because i have a couple gallons already (believe its blue). dealer did coolant last time
 

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Coolant is actually pentofrost NF, says it's a nitrate, amine and phosphate free. Also says it meets astm d-3306 if that is helpful
 

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More specs on mixture. Ethylene glycol (107-21-1); diethylene glycol (111-46-6); sebacic acid (111-20-6); sodium hydroxide (1310-73-2); water (7732-18-5)
 

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Oil used to breakdown..remember 3000 mile oil changes...then 5000...then 7500...we are at 10k now and annual unlimited mileage is quickly becoming the norm. Test the oil if you are so concerned. I have and don't waste my time anymore. At 1000 miles, that oil is still 95%, your oil change is a pure waste. Any good petrochemical engineer will concur. With dino oils, there was an obvious benefit. Not anymore. However, it is profitable for that shop to recommend it.....
Doesn't matter if its a Kia or Maserati.
He's no generic, and he does agree with the petro gurus..btw , he has been doing this longer than 30yrs. I, respectfully, am not dropping names. Please do not let that detract you from the discussion.
My point is simple and even the service manual has the wisdom to know annual service is NOT necessary. I was just giving my opinion to Mich. I bought my car in April, it is garaged, it will have 2500-5000miles on vehicle when I put her to sleep. No service needed. Started this almost 20yrs ago on my 5000mi/yr Jaguars. Serviced them every 2 years/10k. That is when I used to test the oil and learned for myself. Please don't think you are mistreating your car. Maybe the excessive oil change techniques makes the motor last 310k instead of 300k........I read that too. There are some excellent petrochemical forums out there.

I used to change oil in my track car, the Lotus, midseason. I don't even do that anymore. Oil analysis proved it was a waste. So 10-12 track days and 4-6k miles, no prob. That is FAR tougher than your low miles. Their is a difference beween personal opinion and industry facts. The industry has given up on mileage, but they still want to sell you product. All they have left to cling to is "annual" yet the science doesn't support it anymore. At heart, I am a scientist. Let's talk about expensive urine in our pill/vitamin/herb junkies sometime....
 

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More specs on mixture. Ethylene glycol (107-21-1); diethylene glycol (111-46-6); sebacic acid (111-20-6); sodium hydroxide (1310-73-2); water (7732-18-5)
Yes, that coolant will work.....Jason
 

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I live in Michigan, basically drove my car from May (came out late this year), through probably around November. I'll have approx 1000-1500 miles on this oil change. I'll store it from November some time through until probably April.
In the spring of 2020 would you change your oil and filter (i have in the past) even with so little mileage or would you go 2 years?
Thanks
Doesnt matter if its sitting on the shelf or in your oil pan ...I would think..I dont know if oil has
I live in Michigan, basically drove my car from May (came out late this year), through probably around November. I'll have approx 1000-1500 miles on this oil change. I'll store it from November some time through until probably April.
In the spring of 2020 would you change your oil and filter (i have in the past) even with so little mileage or would you go 2 years?
Thanks
Says oil has a 5 year shelf life ... dont think it matters if it's there or in your oil pan... I'd just keep checking it to see if it looks dirty or not.
 
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