[gLA]

Hi there, I'm a new member with a question about purchasing a Ghibli Spyder or an SS Spyder . Obviously due to the rarity of these models it's difficult to get an idea of the current prices. I have a rough idea that the Spyders are in the US $250,000 range but have not seen any of the SS model for sale. Does anyone know what the SS have historically gone for?
That being said it seems that the price for the Spyders that I have seen advertised compared to it's contemporaries of roughly the same year (Daytona's etc) is low. I get the feeling that the Spyder could be a great investment. Have the prices moved much in the last few years or stayed the same?

Also does anyone know of a Spyder or SS Spyder for sale. A restoration project would also be considered.

Thank you for your help.
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[gLA]

one more thing..

I'm located in Los Angeles so would be looking for a US car.

thanks

 

[italiancars]

First Maserati built 125 Ghibli Spyders, of those 125 only 25 were 4.9 SS. Of those 25 4.9 SS Spyders approx. 12 were 5 speeds, the other half were automatics. A number of the automatics were converted to 5 speeds.

Prices have risen with the market in the last few year. I passed on a 4.7 Spyder in 2002 at $55k because I felt at the time it was over market value.

Ghiblis as with all Maserati GT cars tend to be about 1/3 the value of its comparable Ferari.

 

[gLA]

thank you for the information. $55k in 02 show's quiet a jump over the last 7 years.

 

[Coops]

Not forgetting that a number of coupe's have been cut down to spiders. Don't know how many but it is worth being aware of as originality usually has an effect on price. Best way of checking is with the VIN #: Coupes have even numbers and spiders have odd numbers, from what I have heard anyway, someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[gLA]

Really? That's great to know - thanks!

 

[ghibliss]

I passed on a 4.7 Spyder in 2002 at $55k because I felt at the time it was over market value.

This would be for a "bucket of bolts" not even a good driver was available in 2002 for this kind of money. Try just under $100K as I know of a few that were sold around this time for that kind of money. These were 4.7 liter spyders in nice condition. Ghibli SS Spyders go for significantly more money and as already stated they are difficult to find due to the low volume produced.

Converting to a 5 speed is not so simple on a Ghibli as the frame is different where the transmission is mounted and not an easy changeover with lots of parts involved ie transmission, bell housing, clutch, pressure plate, T/O bearing, clutch slave cylinder, clutch master cylinder, pedal box assembly. There are other small items as well with the cost of the parts alone being very costly. There are virtually no ZF S5-325 parts left as they were all sold several years ago what little remained available at that time. A few synchros are about all that is available and they typically sell for about $250.00 or more each!

The added value of a 5 speed is certainly a reason why one might tackle this conversion however it only takes an email to the factory to verify what the car was delivered with. The conversion is only worth the cost of the parts in the end if that. Original Borg & Beck pressure plates have not been available for more then ten years for the V-8 Maserati and the slave cylinder and other original Girling items are also virtually non-existent.

 

[italiancars]

This would be for a "bucket of bolts" not even a good driver was available in 2002 for this kind of money. Try just under $100K as I know of a few that were sold around this time for that kind of money. These were 4.7 liter spyders in nice condition. Ghibli SS Spyders go for significantly more money and as already stated they are difficult to find due to the low volume produced.

Sorry, hardly a bucket of bolts, Ghibli Spyder #1081 was decent driver at the time that just needed some attention. In 2002 the market was flat, 9/11 was still recent event that shook the world.

Ferrari Daytona's were 80k cars with Lussos selling for not a lot more. Ghibli Spyder # 1081 sold at the Blackhawk Hershey auction in Oct. 2002 for a hammer price of 55K add in the buyer's fees and it came to 60K. I was there with a number of other collector/dealers that all felt given the uncertainty of the world economy that the market price at the time was mid to upper 40s.

1081 sold the following spring to Ivan Ruiz for about 65k as the market appeared more stable. http://www.thecarnut.com/ygspyder.html

Ivan cleaned the car up, dyed the seats from Taupe to Black. The car was then sold.

 

[ivanthecarnut]

Sorry, hardly a bucket of bolts, Ghibli Spyder #1081 was decent driver at the time that just needed some attention. In 2002 the market was flat, 9/11 was still recent event that shook the world.

Ferrari Daytona's were 80k cars with Lussos selling for not a lot more. Ghibli Spyder # 1081 sold at the Blackhawk Hershey auction in Oct. 2002 for a hammer price of 55K add in the buyer's fees and it came to 60K. I was there with a number of other collector/dealers that all felt given the uncertainty of the world economy that the market price at the time was mid to upper 40s.

1081 sold the following spring to Ivan Ruiz for about 65k as the market appeared more stable. http://www.thecarnut.com/ygspyder.html

Ivan cleaned the car up, dyed the seats from Taupe to Black. The car was then sold.

Joe is correct, #1081 was not a bad car at all. I sorted the car out, make a few cosmetic changes and drove it that Fall at the MaserMiglia. Sold it a few months later for about $120K.

I am selling a genuine Ghibli SS spyder in need of a serious restoration. It is one of the rare original 5-speed cars. As Joe correctly pointed out, about half of the SS spyders were originally automatic and the frame is different. I converted a Ghibli spyder from auto to 5-speed and swore never to do this again.

Be careful with fakes! In the last 6 months I've inspected two cars with what would appear to be genuine spyder serial numbers. One of these cars was sold by a major auction house and reported in Sports Car Magazine, neither picked up on the fact the car was a fake. If interested in a Ghibli spyder make sure to have it inspected by someone that really knows his stuff.

Ivan
1968 Mistral spyder 4.0
1959 Vignale spyder prototype