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Hello,

I picked up a new GS a couple of days ago on my way to buy what would have been my 6th Porsche.

Loving it (of course) but relatively ignorant about this car, and particularly the F1 tranny - great but need some time to get used to the concept.

Some basic questions:

* Exactly when would the CC decide to shift into Neutral? I know it happened to me a couple of times during the test drive, salesman said it was something like 10 seconds after being off the brake pedal, but lots going on at the time and I don't remember the details.

But it's got me somewhat paranoid driving in traffic, can it shift into Neutral, for example, when crawling at a couple of mph without gas or brake pedal input during bumper to bumper traffic, or slowly advancing to position for a left turn at a big intersection?

Or is it only after getting off the brakes after a full stop?

* In regular city driving I hear a non-engine sound, appears to be from the passenger rear area, which is like something rapidly spooling up or down according the car speed. Not a bad noise, just curious as to what it could be.

* Haven't had to put gas in yet but the setup seems exrtemely prone to gas drops dripping into the bodywork when removing the nozzle - any tips on this?

* Hearing conflicting opinions on the need to break in a Ferrari engine, comments?

Thanks in advance!
 

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RQ,

Welcome to the site, I hope you enjoy the car.

I would recommend thumbing through your manual just to get a nice overview of your car. You can put the car in Neutral by pulling both paddles at the same time. If the indicator is flashing "N" you have to first select neutral by pulling both paddles, then you can engage "R" with the lever or 1st by pulling the right paddle.

The following will cause the system to go into "N" on its own, but you should do it yourself by pulling both paddles as good habit.

1. The brake or gas pedal is not pressed for 6 seconds
2. The brake pedal is pressed for 10 seconds
3. The door is opened without pressing the brake or gas pedal
4. The hood of the engine is open

Yes you can pop it into neutral just as you would a manual.

Be careful when you fill up? :D I'm not sure if there is a exact way, I never top off, when it cuts out once, I then let it sit for 10 seconds or so to finish dripping, seems to work and never a drip from the nozzle.

Give the engine at least 600 miles before you start to drive aggressively. I believe that is recommended in the manual.

Hope you enjoy the new car and share some photos with us!
 

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Sorry I failed to mention this. I'm not sure what the sound is your are hearing. I think someone else on here posted a message about sounds in the car?
 

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Thanks Andrew.

The following will cause the system to go into "N" on its own, but you should do it yourself by pulling both paddles as good habit.

1. The brake or gas pedal is not pressed for 6 seconds
2. The brake pedal is pressed for 10 seconds
My concern is that the car will jump into N unexpectedly while driving in traffic, or about to make a left turn, etc.

Should I find myself in a situation where the car is not at a full stop (rolling at a low speed) and the tranny goes into N, would I need to just touch the brakes to be able to paddle up to 1st again or does the car want a fuller brake engagement?

Seems like a recipe for getting rear-ended, hopefully I am just thick-headed and not understanding things well.

BTW, I don't think that the car really goes to N after 10 secs on the brakes, that would have caught me at many red lights yesterday.

Really enjoying this car!
 

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Congrats on the GS. I just bought a coupe. 04 Cambio. And I am trying to get used to the paddles. It seems to lunge a bit when shifting through the first 3 gears at speed. I'm wondering if that is normal.
 

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Thanks, and congrats on your Coupe!

I would guess that the "lunge" is a matter of familiarity, I feel more competent on it already but then who am I to talk since I've only had this thing for a few days.

One thing is abundantly clear to me by now though, a tight downshift is really fast and rewading with the cambio, every bit as much as with a manual.

Now I just need to smoothen the upshifts and get comfortable with my fear of this thing leaving me in neutral at a bad traffic moment...
 

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Wow, thanks for the info, much appreciated.

Where in Switzerland are you at? I lived in Geneva & Gstaad for about 6 years as a kid, but in the US now.

Oh, and I did read the manual front to back the first day I had the car, but some things were less than clear.

Thanks again!

P.s.: I should know this, but exactly which oil is used from the factory?
 

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My GS seems to be identical to yours - same color ext & interior, red brakes.

Options are (reading from the sticker):

"Powered HI FI"
Brake calipers red
CD changer
Park Distance
Alluminum passenger foot rest
Skyhook suspension
Rear wing in carbon fiber
Xenon lights

Outside of the skyhook I don't think I would have ordered any of the others if I were ordering on spec.
 

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Andrew said:
RQ,

The following will cause the system to go into "N" on its own,
1. The brake or gas pedal is not pressed for 6 seconds
2. The brake pedal is pressed for 10 seconds
3. The door is opened without pressing the brake or gas pedal
4. The hood of the engine is open
Can anyone confirm the timings here - they are very different to the coupe where (quoting from manual):
N is auto selected and warning beeps sound when car is stopped, engine is on and a gear is engaged:
1. if brake or accelerator not used for over 1 minute
2. if brake pressed for more than 10 minutes

I do not think you need to worry about the system dumping you into neutral while you are driving (if it is operating correctly!)
 

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Thanks for the info. Put some miles on it this weekend and 2 coats of Zaino. Car is amazing. The GS must be downright scary.

I'll have to post a picture of the new toy and the old Turbo S Porsche side by side.
 

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I think Barbuckle's timing is right. Put it into neutral yourself as you come to a stop and get it into gear just in time...

Changing gear is certainly a joy once you are used to it.

I must look into this oil thang.
 

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Guys.. don't u think "R" takes too long to engage? I get irritated waiting 1 sec for it to engage.g.... Life's too short to wait 1 sec for reverse.
 

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thebimbo said:
So Andrew owes me a beer then ;-)
I'm not sure I follow, but hell I'll buy you a beer anyways. Here is the progression I see:

Andrew said:
The following will cause the system to go into "N" on its own, but you should do it yourself by pulling both paddles as good habit.

1. The brake or gas pedal is not pressed for 6 seconds
2. The brake pedal is pressed for 10 seconds
3. The door is opened without pressing the brake or gas pedal
4. The hood of the engine is open
theBimbo said:
Yep if you are rolling slowly down a small incline (without braking) then the system may just go into N (see Andrew's post although I'm sure 2. is wrong - I buy Andrew a beer here if I'm wrong) but it does beep before going into N so that's the clue.
barbuckle said:
Can anyone confirm the timings here - they are very different to the coupe where (quoting from manual):
N is auto selected and warning beeps sound when car is stopped, engine is on and a gear is engaged:
1. if brake or accelerator not used for over 1 minute
2. if brake pressed for more than 10 minutes
:twisted: :oops: Doh! I thought I was getting a beer. I put 10 seconds, not 10 minutes! Looks like I owe you a beer.

barbuckle,

Are you sure about that 10 minutes not being seconds? Who holds a break for 10 minutes?
 

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An important point that still confuses me:

So if one is slowly rolling in traffic and after 6 seconds of no brake / throttle input the tranny goes to N - one has to press the brakes to re-engage 1st, correct?

If this is the case I hope the lightest touch can suffice.
 
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