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My Grigio Lava. Btw, I've driven both cars (European and American version) and they sound the same to me... I'm not sure Maserati still makes the European 2 seat version anymore, the one I drove was identical to the US version (except of course for brakes and F1 transmission).

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That picture you attached could bring a tear to my eye.

Love that color. That and white have to be my favorite colors
 

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Based on your post, it is clear that you have driven the US MC in manual-sport mode and the Stradale (otherwise your subjective comparisons have no basis).

Please explain to me how two cars (the US MC and the Stradale), both with the same engine, same exhaust, same power, and same ability to open up the exhaust valves at all RPM, can sound different due to ECU. Does the different ECU magically pump more volume of air through the exhaust, without adding horsepower? Also, what is your source for the different ECU in the Stradale?

I've heard both cars exhaust on youtube, and they sound identical to my ears.
They sound different due to different ignition timings (see technical specification in users manual around page 199 depending on which country or language you are looking at). All ZF automatic geared cars are programmed with Bosch Motronic ME9 whereas F1 geared box have Bosch Motronic ME7.1.1. ECU programming.

Customers who permanently leave exhaust valves open on ZF auto GT SPORT cars (by disconnecting a hose around the exhaust) have a car that sounds different to the F1 cars although they have the same exhaust system. The sound signature different is due to the different ignition timings for both cars, th F1 cars sounding MORE raw and aggressive. Youtube by no means does justice to how these things sound in real life.
 

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All ZF automatic geared cars are programmed with Bosch Motronic ME9 whereas F1 geared box have Bosch Motronic ME7.1.1. ECU programming.


Wrong. See link below:


https://www.scribd.com/doc/201140062/Maserati-Engine-Timing-Information


Notice the last line, which shows a 4.7L ZF Auto running ME7. All 4.7L GTs are F136Y engines. All MCs (including Stradales) are F136YK variants, which all run ME7 programming, regardless of transmission according to the link.


And anyway, a difference in ignition timing makes a car louder? uh no.
 

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That link is by no means a source of truth - go to the official maserati website and open the users manual and find out the truth for yourself.

Also, the link you sent misses some models which heavily puts its quality into question. I wouldn't rely on such unofficial link for technical specifications.

Having heard both F1 & Auto cars with parmanently opened exhaust valves on all driving modes I can distinctly tell the difference - and as I said, the sound signature difference is due to different engine ignition timings which is simply necesarry due to different technicalities of the respective gearboxes. You may contact maserati HQ for further elaboration if you wish.

I am closing my comments on this topic as I see no value to the community to beat a dead horse (the facts are there and need to argueing).
 

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That link is by no means a source of truth - go to the official maserati website and open the users manual and find out the truth for yourself.
Please post the link to the 2012 US MC and MC Stradales users manuals from the Maserati website that you are citing. I've been looking for those for a while now. Perhaps you have found the holy grail that no one else has been able to provide me!

Thanks in advance.
 

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Hi,

I am reading a while in this Forum but have not written yet. Sorry for my bad english, I am from germany. Check my MC Straddle, its 2014 and one of the last Facelift Models with 2 Seaters and 460 HP. If you want to see more pictures or have any questions, just tell me :)

Greeting from Munich
 

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Hi,

I am reading a while in this Forum but have not written yet. Sorry for my bad english, I am from germany. Check my MC Straddle, its 2014 and one of the last Facelift Models with 2 Seaters and 460 HP. If you want to see more pictures or have any questions, just tell me :)

Greeting from Munich
Forgot to put also this pic in. Ill can make better if you like to see more :)
 

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Congrats and welcome, very nice MC Stradale, really wish we could have this model here in the USA!

Best Regards,
 

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MC Stradale - first thoughts.

Just had mine 5 days and already done 600 miles (winter, down here).

It's a 2013 Euro Stradale, two seater, no roll cage. It's one of the last original Stradale versions, not the newer 4 seaters.

It had 9000 miles when I received it, looks like new.

First impressions:

- seat bolster on drivers side bucket wears quickly, no rips, but leather worn and showing suede material under original black finish.
- the car is much faster than I had thought, I drove an Audi r8, carrera S and M3 before deciding. The stradale is the most ferocious of them all, especially noticeable in race mode.
- I have a small vibration over 130Mph (about 220Km/h) that I assume is balancing based. We have very bad minor roads here and the P Zero's have NO sidewall. I am assuming some balancing lead has come off, or a small bend in a wheel rim (ouch)
- Steering is sweet, precise, tons of feedback. Quite a lot of tramlinig, but I think the PZero's are to blame. Fast overtaking on a road with a lot of central crest is quite hard to control when done very fast.
- The infotainment system (I don't have the optional Bose System) is real crap. Really. But I guess that's what Race mode was invented for....
- Quite a lot of wind noise over the rear of the car over 220Km/k. It sounds like from the back window area. Maybe the lip spoiler?
- In general car is very solid, quiet. No rattles. I have fixed suspension (no mag ride), just as I wanted. Suspension in town is very hard, jarring, uncomfortable.
- reverse and auto 1st gear is a joke, it;s like your granny trying to control a stiff manual clutch. Horrible! (but sort of fun).

I am very impressed with the car, as a long time "M" BMW owner I thought it would be hard to get used to, but after 50Km driving it feels completely natural.

And that sound, in race mode, is worth the price alone ;)
 

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Just had mine 5 days and already done 600 miles (winter, down here).

It's a 2013 Euro Stradale, two seater, no roll cage. It's one of the last original Stradale versions, not the newer 4 seaters.

It had 9000 miles when I received it, looks like new.

First impressions:

- seat bolster on drivers side bucket wears quickly, no rips, but leather worn and showing suede material under original black finish.
- the car is much faster than I had thought, I drove an Audi r8, carrera S and M3 before deciding. The stradale is the most ferocious of them all, especially noticeable in race mode.
- I have a small vibration over 130Mph (about 220Km/h) that I assume is balancing based. We have very bad minor roads here and the P Zero's have NO sidewall. I am assuming some balancing lead has come off, or a small bend in a wheel rim (ouch)
- Steering is sweet, precise, tons of feedback. Quite a lot of tramlinig, but I think the PZero's are to blame. Fast overtaking on a road with a lot of central crest is quite hard to control when done very fast.
- The infotainment system (I don't have the optional Bose System) is real crap. Really. But I guess that's what Race mode was invented for....
- Quite a lot of wind noise over the rear of the car over 220Km/k. It sounds like from the back window area. Maybe the lip spoiler?
- In general car is very solid, quiet. No rattles. I have fixed suspension (no mag ride), just as I wanted. Suspension in town is very hard, jarring, uncomfortable.
- reverse and auto 1st gear is a joke, it;s like your granny trying to control a stiff manual clutch. Horrible! (but sort of fun).

I am very impressed with the car, as a long time "M" BMW owner I thought it would be hard to get used to, but after 50Km driving it feels completely natural.

And that sound, in race mode, is worth the price alone ;)


You were a bmw owner so you would know based on the comparison below is true. Is the mc stradale slower than the bmw e63 BMW V10 F1 m6?

http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1312-4020.htm
 

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Greetings from Sunny Singapore!

Took over the beast in a stock form!


And the transformation...








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You were a bmw owner so you would know based on the comparison below is true. Is the mc stradale slower than the bmw e63 BMW V10 F1 m6?

http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel1312-4020.htm
Quicker around every single racetrack that the two were driven on *Yes* The Stradale is a quicker car. (BTW Nürburgring time for stradale is 8:00 not the 8:13 shown on that link)

In all cases, the stradale (as is any Maserati) is a huge sense of occasion. A BWM is just a BMW (I still have one, too).

BTW, this is a Maserati Forum, there are plenty of nice BMW ones you can stress out less in :wink2:
 

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Quicker around every single racetrack that the two were driven on *Yes* The Stradale is a quicker car. (BTW Nürburgring time for stradale is 8:00 not the 8:13 shown on that link)

In all cases, the stradale (as is any Maserati) is a huge sense of occasion. A BWM is just a BMW (I still have one, too).

BTW, this is a Maserati Forum, there are plenty of nice BMW ones you can stress out less in :wink2:
Yeah but the m6 has the fucking f1 v10 and there are videos of it going faster than a freaking Lamborghini gallardo in straightline. The v10 m5 e60 did a 7:52 on the nurburgring so the real m6 time is even faster than the one listed. I am trying to decide which to buy, its a very tough choice as you know.
 

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Yeah but the m6 has the fucking f1 v10 and there are videos of it going faster than a freaking Lamborghini gallardo in straightline. The v10 m5 e60 did a 7:52 on the nurburgring so the real m6 time is even faster than the one listed. I am trying to decide which to buy, its a very tough choice as you know.

There is no choice, they are two cars in an entire different categories, and price ranges also. Used, in the UK the M6 V10 costs 10KGBP, the stradale, if you can find a good one, 60KGBP.

Or just buy an MC Shift GT, almost the same car as the stradale, and the M6 V10, the two would cost you 45KGBP together.

Drive both. It will be hard giving the Maserati back.
 

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I am in Melbs so the mc stradale will have to be a uk one as the one's here cost 190-300k aud. Looking to replace my e92 m3 in pic.
I am just not sure how much of a upgrade the v8 mc stradale (as I've never driven one) is hence looking at the v10 m6 as option too. The v10 m6 is 45-80k (depending if its a 2008-2010 vs 2006-2007) aud here.
my m3 e92 cold start
 

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