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Had some time today and yesterday. Finally took things apart.

Alternator is 100% seized and partially melted! Not sure how long it was going bad, but I expect it's been going for a while. Hope the car is faster now lol.
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That alternator is toast and you need to stuff some paper towels etc. into those intake ports before something falls in them...BTW...See those badass intake ports all machined...You don't see that on a Hyundai, Honda, etc..That is straight up badass cyl. head work from the factory.. Jason
 

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Nice job getting intake off, how long did it take you?
The actual intake manifold itself, injectors, piping etc was very easy to remove and took me maybe 30 minutes +/-. The longest part of this entire process is the removal of all the plastics, moving other items out of the way, wipers and motor assembly etc.

Leave the injectors in the fuel rails and leave the rails & injectors in the engine bay. I did not depressurize the fuel system. No need to.

Alternator removal itself is pretty damn easy too with the right tools.
 

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We had a car with a seized alternator come in to the shop and almost start a fire, it was so hot it was smoking... glad you found it before it created a larger problem!

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We had a car with a seized alternator come in to the shop and almost start a fire, it was so hot it was smoking... glad you found it before it created a larger problem!

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I believe it. Mine was smoking.... dramatically.... I've never seen an alternator smoking like this before. Plus the smell of burning electronics at the alternator area is STILL overwhelming although it is removed now.

I am very glad that nothing caught on fire cause that was a REAL possibility... At least I would have been right there in the Ferrari fire club ?.
 

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Why the alternator is failing so badly ?

because of age? bad design? bad materials? too close to engine?
 

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Brand is fine as it is used by most European makes...I suspect it doesn't get a lot of air going over it in that location is my best guess...Jason
I would have to agree with that assessment. The alternator is covered in basically every angle. The heat it generates is replaced by the heat of the engine. Luckily, its not an engine out swap like some Ferrari's.
 

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Another reason why you should never rebuild. My alternator problems only stopped after I installed a new one. With my last failure, I had a complete rebuild done again but chickened out and bought a new one the same day. I wound up giving the newly rebuilt one away to a forum member. I just couldn't go through the unnecessary hassle of R&R again.

Most of the original failures I see are between 60-70K miles.
 

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Another reason why you should never rebuild. My alternator problems only stopped after I installed a new one. With my last failure, I had a complete rebuild done again but chickened out and bought a new one the same day. I wound up giving the newly rebuilt one away to a forum member. I just couldn't go through the unnecessary hassle of R&R again.

Most of the original failures I see are between 60-70K miles.
Mine failed at 68k miles.
 

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I had my alternator failed on my 2009 QP 4yrs ago @ only 60,000 miles. I'm now at 100,000 and everything is fine. I agree with the guys above to buy "new". This is a critical component; why be cheap when the labor is 75% of the cost. Total job cost me $2700.

I also just replaced my battery with the best "interstate" they make for $275 for our car. I installed it myself. The prior interstate that I had lasted 8yrs! so I 100% stand behind their product.

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My total estimated cost so far with me doing all the work is about $800+/-. That is with a new alternator and valve cover gaskets.
 

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I had my alternator failed on my 2009 QP 4yrs ago @ only 60,000 miles. I'm now at 100,000 and everything is fine. I agree with the guys above to buy "new". This is a critical component; why be cheap when the labor is 75% of the cost. Total job cost me $2700.

I also just replaced my battery with the best "interstate" they make for $275 for our car. I installed it myself. The prior interstate that I had lasted 8yrs! so I 100% stand behind their product.

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$2,700 is a bit steep, but at least it's done.

The first time I did this job, it took me probably 6 hours. The second time about 3.5.
 

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Yea, it is a really easy straight forward job. Same with the valve covers. Pretty much no different than ordinary cars. Except for the obvious take everything apart and out of the way aspect lol.
 

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It's really sad that Maserati Owners seem to routinely get way overcharged for basic service and many relatively simple repairs. $2,700 for an alternator replacement is almost criminal....
 

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It's really sad that Maserati Owners seem to routinely get way overcharged for basic service and many relatively simple repairs. $2,700 for an alternator replacement is almost criminal....
I am one of the lucky ones to have more mechanical skill than the average joe. Can anyone do this job, no way. If you can change water pumps, alternators, brakes, axles, engine mounts, radiators, injectors etc etc, then this job is doable.

If you struggle or are nervous to do more than change a tire, this is not the job for you.

Since most shops wont touch it due to liability, many owners do not have many avenues for support and just fork over the cash. Plus it takes more than the usual socket set. Torques bit set, Allen bit set, regular socket set, extensions, open end ratchet set helps for the tensioner, torque wrench and i dont remember what else.

But I fully agree. It says Maserati so that = ? to some mechanics.
 

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Reminds me of when I blew out an EV line. Dealer wanted $7,200.00. Repair took me one day. The entire gearbox and subframe drop straight down with a few bolts. There it was! All you need is a motorcycle lift and a bit of patience and you can save THOUSANDS. Yeah, yeah, you need to loosen up the bell housing bolts, drop the exhaust, etc., but none of that is hard.

While I had the entire tranny out, I gunked and hosed it off, cleaned up the undercarriage and reassembled. Had it ready by the weekend!
 

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Reminds me of when I blew out an EV line. Dealer wanted $7,200.00. Repair took me one day. The entire gearbox and subframe drop straight down with a few bolts. There it was! All you need is a motorcycle lift and a bit of patience and you can save THOUSANDS. Yeah, yeah, you need to loosen up the bell housing bolts, drop the exhaust, etc., but none of that is hard.

While I had the entire tranny out, I gunked and hosed it off, cleaned up the undercarriage and reassembled. Had it ready by the weekend!

What is an EV line? I assume you had a lift? Or did you put the car on stands? I really hate working under a car on stands..... I have done it more times than I could ever remember, but I always hate it lol...
 

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I am one of the lucky ones to have more mechanical skill than the average joe.
Me too, don't think I'd dare buy any exotic beauty out of warranty if I didn't unless I knew a very talented/reasonable mechanic. The more I work on these, the more evident it becomes that they are extremely well built and actually not that complicated to work on (except for some of the electrical faults that most scanners won't help with). But, the prices for replacement parts can get crazy expensive especially if you get it from the dealerships.... I recently did the major service on mine replacing all belts, fluids, and air filters for less than $400 so if you can do it yourself you can save thousands...
 
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