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Hey guys, trying to suss out what exactly this install looks like.

I've seen the PDF by @Vincenzo that lays out the whole install and it makes sense and seems not too complicated, if a little annoying.

However, based on some product photos it very much looks to me like the current version of the product includes a pre-wired harness that allows it to go in between the relevant parts of the existing system by just clipping in? And, if that's not how it is, I'm pretty surprised that FD doesn't include such a thing at such a product price. Would be a kind gesture to their customers.

See the attached photos of what looks like a new product with the harness I describe, and a used older one with the hand-spliced and labeled leads.
 

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Mine looks like the old one. A bit of wire work, but not too bad. Plug-n-play would be nice.
 

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I had the later. It wasn't difficult and all wires were clearly labeled.

I noticed that the unit in the two photos differ slightly. Black car vs silver, GRAN sport vs 4200 etc
 

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There is really no reason why there shouldn't be a plug-n-play version of the DBW for the 4200. Maybe there is one for newer cars?
 

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Yea its not all that hard to install but im sure a plug and play is always better. That said, FD has a great product and i wouldnt hesitate to buy just cause its not plug and play. Buy it, you wont regret it
 

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Yea its not all that hard to install but im sure a plug and play is always better. That said, FD has a great product and i wouldnt hesitate to buy just cause its not plug and play. Buy it, you wont regret it
But one of the pics looks like plug-n-play to me, that's what I'm trying to confirm.

I want DBW either way, but if there's a newer revision that is plug-n-play that would steer me towards buying new vs used.
 

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What about making a plug'n'play harness for those who would rather not splice/solder wires? It would still plug into the DBW box, doesn't matter if old or new. I'm sure there is a market for it. I bought the DBW when I got my Spyder but never installed it because I never use Auto mode and drive in Sport mode all the time which suits me just fine. The only time I wish I had it was for off the line response which is pretty pathetic even in Sport mode. It's very delayed reaction.
 

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If I recall correctly, off the line is related to how aggressive the clutch is set and how much throttle you give it. The FD mod drastically increases throttle response, but putting the pedal to the metal will have the same effect.

The big difference in the FD mod is the super fast gear changes both up and down, especially the downshift blip to match gear speeds. But even the upshifts are so fast they they make the ordinary sport mode seem like auto.
 

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Hey guys,

Both of those DBW are the same. The first picture on the left has the "Y" harness only and not the full wiring harness. The install is pretty simple, just follow the instructions to the T and take your time. There' just a few wires that need to be either spliced or tapped and your done.

Don't hesitate to give us a call with any questions. 702-430-1040

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Hey guys,

Both of those DBW are the same. The first picture on the left has the "Y" harness only and not the full wiring harness. The install is pretty simple, just follow the instructions to the T and take your time. There' just a few wires that need to be either spliced or tapped and your done.

Don't hesitate to give us a call with any questions. 702-430-1040

Best Regards

Why not offer a pre-spliced connector that just plugs into the existing wiring? I would definitely buy one.

My main issue is if something were to go wrong, I would like to be able to undo the mod completely and return the car to stock without doing any more wire splicing. Just unplug it and done.
 

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There isn't a place to plug it conveniently into the existing wiring. Once you study the wiring instructions, and see the OEM wiring harness and connectors to the ECU, you will see why.

However, you can very easily revert back to factory settings after the wiring mods are done. Doing so is a simple unplug and re-plug operation. The kit includes the piece to accomplish that. Covered in the instructions.

It's not a difficult job, just a meticulous one. Take your time.

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I just paid an auto accessories shop to install it. Surprisingly, Mechanic shop and authorized install center didn't want to install it. I asked a place that does remote starts and car accessories. They installed dbw, installed rear diffuser, wrapped/ painted some chrome rings all for 350$. Those guys work with wiring all day everyday and bypass firewalls for audio installs or whatever else. I trust them more than I trust myself
 
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