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Here is my turd of the day..Poor Lotus got used like a cheap whore back in the day for their excellent engineering...Izuzu got in the mix and we ended up with this turd..A FWD Lotus...Colin is rolling in his grave..
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Those TCs held their market value pretty well, and under their skin they are BiTurbos. same as current V6s. And for the "turd" callers, guess who owns Maserati now?

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I have no idea what you are talking about..They were 4 cylinder Chrysler 2.2 turbos...Nothing like the current twin turbo cars...Fiat owns Chrysler...It wasn't the other way around...Fiat is the parent company and owned Maserati before the merger..Jason
 
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Twenty years ago Fiat owned Alfa, Alfa owned Ferrari and Ferrari owned Maserati. But that was then. Gotta keep up or you might invest in FTX.

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I think you are stuck in the past..I knew that when you said remove the caps on the battery and check with a hydrometer....That was then..get with modern times Sir...J
 
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Stellantis is actually the parent. And yes, Fiat bought Chrysler; and Marchionne expanded the Maserati range to include more “downmarket” offerings, i.e., the Ghibli. (My 4200 CC was $90,000 in 2002. A new Ghibli is about $95,000 20 years later.). But the Ghibli was based on the Chrysler 200 with an engine assembled by Ferrari using a Chrysler 6 cylinder block. Sure, the Ghibli has more engine than used in the TC — a 4 cylinder Chrysler or a 6 cylinder Mitsubishi — but the TC engine was probably comparable to a Porsche 944 of the day. (Given that the TC likely weighed in at a half ton less, 160 GP was likely pretty sporty.).

I wouldn’t buy one. Stick with a BMW that’s more easily serviced with greater parts availability. (I have to drive by 7 BMW dealers before I get close to the Maserati dealer and the staff at the MaseratI dealership are jerks.). It’s not my intention to trash Maserati. I love my 4200 with no plans on retiring it. But, if you’re going to “marry an Italian woman” — whether automotive or human — make sure that she’s worth the headache and maintenance.
I'm well aware of that, but I wasn't going even deeper into that pond with him..Marchionne wanted to sell more cars and that is exactly what they did...Downgrade or not...If you don't sell cars then you are screwed as that luxury segment is over saturated with brands currently IMO..J
 
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Lead / Acid batteries still work the same as ever. The trend has been to hide the cell covers ("It's sealed") so unscrupulous mechanics can increase sales, and that creates a market for battery "remanufacturers". If you mean by "get with modern times" trashing products as soon as the new gizmo smell wears off, that will never happen. Nor will it if you mean that one should learn to accept scams.

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Yeah, techs are getting rich selling car batteries..You got all us.. :rolleyes: Ted, with all due respect..I don't think you know the difference between shit and apple butter about a modern vehicle...J
 
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No worries..I don't agree on the whole pedigree thing..I deal with customers all day about cars...95% of them don't care about stuff like that...People are just weird about vehicles and like them for different reasons...J
 
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Dude, you are about a f-ing moron. Techs nor people at my shop get a commission on parts..Quit talking about stuff you know nothing about is my best advice..I don't need to go to Italy or England to fix a Jaguar, Land Rover, Maserati, or Ferrari product...They invented the internet along the way..You can actually learn about a particular brand of car without visiting the home country... You are correct and I'm not factory trained,but I have fixed cars for like 33 years and my shop is filled with cars including cars from out of state so I'm good with that and I don't give two shits about Modena...You obviously have no understanding on how modern cars are built with similar technology and the same vendors for a lot of parts...Go back to 1950..
 
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Not that is much better and probably on the same chassis..I thought this was the Charlies's Angels car? I'm 50...I was a little kid watching that...Cut me a break.. 😉
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This is another kinda joint venture deal that was a dumpster fire..The Pantera...Ford 351 on a downright scary chassis..I worked on a 1 original owner car a few times and I didn't want to go faster than 70 MPH in the thing...Just a terrible car..Looks like it was built from stuff from a junk yard and scrap metal stock ..J

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