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As some of you know by now I want a 6 speed with skyhook....I was told by a non-service tech(not Maserati) that they can plug into the OBD and tell me the life left on the clutch? Sounds TOO good to be true.....set me straight guys and gals! dogdoc
 

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As some of you know by now I want a 6 speed with skyhook....I was told by a non-service tech(not Maserati) that they can plug into the OBD and tell me the life left on the clutch? Sounds TOO good to be true.....set me straight guys and gals! dogdoc
True for the Cambiocorsas - don't know about the manual transmissions.
 

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Do you need a special OBDII tool for the maserati? Any recommended ones? Where would I find the manufacturer specific codes - any manuals out there or mas specific software to go with the connector?

I had one for my S4 & it was invaluable, did everything the factory tool did so would like the same for my new gransport.

cheers!
 

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You can check clutch life by hooking the SD2 Tester into the ODB port; it won't happen with a code-reader I'm afraid. SD2 Testers is one of the key gadgets your dealers would have. You could as well, but need to spend some dosh to get one.

So it is something that can be done by your service guru, not by you.

Then, readings are good +/- 10% and some ppl usually carry a visual inspection as well.

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I have seen used SD2's for about $10K .

I was told the same thing by our local dealership a while ago.
 

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I have seen used SD2's for about $10K .
Like I said, I suspect they are too steep for the likes of me :) :D

But does anyone know what you can do with an SD2 that you can't do with OBDII like the clutch reading? - ie how useful would an OBDII scanner be? - about $399 by all accounts.
 

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You can buy a generic OBDII/Can-bus reader for about $100. They are useful for looking up check engine codes and resetting the indicator.

I have a couple of cars that are prone to minor faults and it saves a lot of time and effort diagnosing the problem myself then taking it to a shop every time. I have also used it when buying a car to see if there are any old codes that were not cleared to try and determine if there are any hidden issues.

My understanding is that most manufacturers have extended codes that they use and which are usually not readable by the generic tools. I suspect that this is the difference with the SD2
 

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Are the manufacturer specific codes available anywhere? Ross-tech managed to get all of the VAG ones & compile them into a cheap little windows App which did nearly all the things the big VAG tool could do. I'm assuming there's a list of them in the SD2 manuals or even in the workshop manuals.. fingers crossed someone fancies making a mini SD2 :D
 

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Fade2grey guess what i have a workshop manual for the 4200, feel an email coming on


Regards loz
 

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Lozcb,

I would appreciate an email as well please :)
 

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VAG Tool

Are the manufacturer specific codes available anywhere? Ross-tech managed to get all of the VAG ones & compile them into a cheap little windows App which did nearly all the things the big VAG tool could do. I'm assuming there's a list of them in the SD2 manuals or even in the workshop manuals.. fingers crossed someone fancies making a mini SD2 :D
I had a VAG tool for my Audi. It was great. My understanding is that it involved getting the hardware interface right (pin-outs on the cable) and developing a software interface that made sense of the various ECU settings that could be played with, like automatic doors locks at speed or one-touch windows, etc. Unless our cars have a Fiat ECU :confused: , I don't think there's a big enough base to make all that development worthwhile for Masers... BW
 

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For what its worth the SD2 has been replaced by the SD3, which we spent about $20k on.

The SD3 talks to the ECU, TCU, and other computers in the car, where I believe the standard OBD is only talking to the ECU.

The TCU stores codes and settings related to the transmission, its sensors, and its configuration. When a clutch is replaced the life sensor is reset, and the kiss-point is calibrated for proper engagement. This has to be done with the car warm and while driving. If done at a third party shop, the calibration could be close, but not right, and you'll likely have faster than normal clutch wear, and you won't be able to get a correct wear readout. The other part of this is that I have seen a car that had its wear sensor reset, but did not have a new clutch, so even that must be taken with a grain of salt.

I sent these guys an e-mail just to see...

http://www.grimaldiengineering.co.uk/SD3.asp
 

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For what its worth the SD2 has been replaced by the SD3, which we spent about $20k on.

The SD3 talks to the ECU, TCU, and other computers in the car, where I believe the standard OBD is only talking to the ECU.

The TCU stores codes and settings related to the transmission, its sensors, and its configuration. When a clutch is replaced the life sensor is reset, and the kiss-point is calibrated for proper engagement. This has to be done with the car warm and while driving. If done at a third party shop, the calibration could be close, but not right, and you'll likely have faster than normal clutch wear, and you won't be able to get a correct wear readout. The other part of this is that I have seen a car that had its wear sensor reset, but did not have a new clutch, so even that must be taken with a grain of salt.

I sent these guys an e-mail just to see...

http://www.grimaldiengineering.co.uk/SD3.asp
Thank you for the comprehensive answer.
 

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Hello guys.....
WHERE THE HELL IS THIS F........ OBDII PLUG????????
Can anyone help me out?
 

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under the dash in the carpeted area of the lower dashboard Drivers side foot well should be a plastic cover labeled OBED If memory serves it is between the steering column and the center console
 

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under the dash in the carpeted area of the lower dashboard Drivers side foot well should be a plastic cover labeled OBED If memory serves it is between the steering column and the center console
thanks Head..... just in front of my eyes.......
By the way NO.... CLUTCH WEAR CANNOT BE MEASURED OR INDICATED WITH THE EOBD PORT!!!!
 

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My OBD will connect to the TCU however it does not tell you much about it! You really need an SD2 or SD3
 

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I never heard back from that company, and I'm not sure that you can get an SD3 with proper software unless you're a dealer. From what I've seen, both the specific hardware and software is proprietary and it would be next to impossible to legally reproduce the functionality of the SD3 by a third party. Plus new software patches come out for the tester every couple of weeks, and you'd never get your hands on those. Our testers cost almost $20k and can be very picky animals.
 
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