haha said:
and we also know that haha wasn't too excited about the numbers after the mod. honestly, don't do it if 91 oct is the only fuel you're be using.
don't know if the charts are for 96 or possibly 93 but it sure isn't dyno'd with 91. the graphs on mine isn't anywhere close to their ad. having said that, the mod does make it drive like what a sports car should be. my gripe is that Eurotek should be candid about the result on 91 octanes.
That's direct from you in another thread. What you're saying is 91 octane doesn't give the same results as 93 or 96 octane according to the dyno results you had. But the car makes it drive like what a sports car should. So instead of advising people no to get the mod if they have 91oct at all. I think a better way to phrase it according to your opinion would be "Don't do it if 91 oct is the only fuel you'll be using and the only thing you're looking for is HP gains".
The upgrade does more than HP gains as you stated so there still are other reasons to purchase it even if you may not be able to use it to your full potential.
According to the information you've provided.
I know you spoke with Phil direct and I spoke with you. But I swapped a few emails with you back and forth. This is the last email sent to you which was never replied to.
"Denys,
Haven't had a chance to open the dynos yet. Sorry the results weren't what you were expecting. I have 2 other customers that will be doing dyno's soon. If their results are different then yours then maybe something was overlooked and it can be sent in for a retune or inspection.
Your original review of the Eurotek seemed to be positive. Although you weren't happy with the dyno it seems the below as quoted was a good review.
"throttle response: superb, doesn't drag
gear change: still rough between 6.5-8K rpm but smooth under 5K.
ignition timing: did not shake at high rev and speed (more psychological than factual)
tubi: dampened at start and lower revs but gets louder at around 4K which originally had almost no sound when in 5th and 6th gear."
If you're wanting to return it back to stock you would be losing the above. As curiosity because of the dyno #'s do you feel as if you're not getting your moneys worth? Is it the moral? I'm just curious because I'd hate to resort to tuning it back to stock. I'm willing to do anything reasonable to keep the upgrade.
I got an email forwarded back from Piscal over at Eurotek. This is not word by word because the guy doesn't speak great English so it's been edited to where it's understandable.
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I manipulate the mass air flow temperature sensor. This is for when you are actually driving and air is being forced into the intake.
On the dyno there is no airflow it is restrictive and the heat retards the timing.
Building a program to make the results look good on a dyno won't yield the same practicality and smoothness on the street.
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I'm aware you've also been taking to Phil I spoke with him yesterday, I haven't talked to him today. If you guys have already worked something out then just disregard my email.
Regards,
Kevin"
I still have it saved in my sent folder. After that I never received an email back from you. I guess I could have attempted to contact you again. But short of that I'm not sure what else I could have done.
If you replied back to me telling me you wanted a refund. I would have refunded you as soon as Phil got the ECU back. The only thing I wouldn't refund is the shipping costs, but you'd still get the money you spent on the unit back. Any customer has 2 weeks to return the unit if they are not happy. But they will need to contact me and not Phil and talk to me unless Phil has decided to work something out with them. The reason being that you bought the unit from me. I am in charge of refunding your money because I'm the one that collected it.
I hope that explains the mishap and again apologies for any problems you had. It still seems from your posts that you're happy with your unit. The only thing you're not happy with is that Eurotek didn't say that results may vary from 91 to 93 octane. When I post the official groupbuy thread assuming we have enough interest for one, I will make sure to notify all 91 octane customers that we had a customer out in CA that did not achieve the dyno results he was expecting compared to the 93.
Regards,
Kevin
