2014 QP sq4....engine failed...warranty was voided because the dealer told Maserati about some tunes I had installed.....I bought new engine...with a new motor will they reinstate my warranty again?
2014 Engine Failure
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Probably not, but I would ask them
The crankshaft blew Maserati told me to stick it......made the tuner purchase a new motor for me.....but even with a new motor being installed it will not be warrantied? Makes me want to call Maserati north America and have them stick it to every dealer that is selling and installing tunes in house.
Ouch, but makes sense. It is a fair call for Maserati. The engine issue is not on them. The trust on follow-up warranty is blown so not surprised they won't warranty it.
Was the engine completely destroyed by the failure and not rebuildable?
Good luck with the car moving forward.
Was the engine completely destroyed by the failure and not rebuildable?
Good luck with the car moving forward.
To be honest service advisor said the crank pulley had a wobble and engine had a knock....I pressed the tuner to purchase new engine which they did no questions ask....but I believe if they just swapped the crank shaft car would be fine so did the tuner also.....what I think is that the techs at Maserati don't know anything about cars like older mechanics use too...now its just plug the car read codes and send codes back to Italy and wait for there response....its been two months already with no car and payments of about 1600 a month.....just pissing money away. The dealer sold me the tune and installed it themselves...but when shit it the fan they were the first guys to start back peddling....the second I get my car back I will be calling Maserati north America and I will rain a shit storm on all the dealers installing tunes under Maserati nose
If the dealer sold you the tune and didn't have you sign and acknowledge that the warranty would be voided, I'd say you have solid ground for a law suit. That is complete BS.
Good luck on this.
By the way, what was the tune? It is quite difficult to bend a crank. I bought a hydrolocked Ferrari 612 with a massively bent rod, etc. and no bend crank. I think something else is going on.
Good luck on this.
By the way, what was the tune? It is quite difficult to bend a crank. I bought a hydrolocked Ferrari 612 with a massively bent rod, etc. and no bend crank. I think something else is going on.
I also think its just something wrong with Maserati motor from the factory.... I read somewhere else on the forum that someone with a ghibli also had complete engine failure with no tunes....and lets face reality Maserati is well known for being pieces of junk... I totally regret buying a Maserati .....should have bought the S63 Merc I was looking at instead....the tuner was Novitec.....very very good tuner....I honestly don't believe the tune caused engine failure....novitec showed there true colors and did everything for me possible to literally buying me a new motor.....kudos to them for not running away....but the dealer I bought the car from.....terrible it has literally been a nightmare for me.....the techs don't know anything and I mean literally anything..... I feel I know more about cars than they do.....service guy is always giving me the run around on the phone....novitec shipped the new motor to them over a week ago.....spoke today and my old motor is still in my car....like hello buddy why are you taking so damn long to swap the motors and just give me my car back already
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Whoo-whoo. Let see. You installed a tune you have yet to identify and now all Maserati's are junk. I don't blame Maserati for sticking it up your ass. If the dealer installed it and you paid him for the tune he owns the liability if you didn't sign off. You never said if the dealer is factory Maserati dealer or just a high performance shop. Big difference but I was denied warranty because I had different mufflers on the car. Totally illegal but I guess that is how Maserati NA rolls.I have have put a had 50K miles on my Maserati and a has been flawless. I am not down on tunes. I have one on my cummins truck and it rocks. I had one I used a MINI I tracked and I lost a motor just cruising down the highway. I had to fight and hire a lawyer so I decided it was not worth the risk on a Maserati or Ferrari for a couple of horse power. It is mostly likely that the tune had nothing to do with the issue and the car could have been defective or developed issues. Did you buy this car new from the same dealer? Any way by having a tune you gave them an easy out. You made the choice to install the tune and take the risk. Grow a pair a balls and be a man about it. Pussies in this country never take responsibility for there own actions. Sick of it!
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PS - Your lucky the tuner stepped up for a motor for you. I would say they have had other issues. Like to know who it was to save other a blown motor.
Car was purchased new from Maserati dealer. Tune sold by Maserati dealer. Tune installed by Maserati. Anything else you looking for. 160k msrp Maserati with not even 8k miles on it. Maserati cars are the worst in the business. Let's face true facts. Between the Germans and the English. Italians don't know what they are doing.
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This is the first time I've ever heard someone say that Ferrari doesn't know how to put an engine together. You may have had a bad engine since new, but to come out and say that Novitec wararnteed your engine after Maserati (like every other manufacturer) wouldn't, therefore all Maseratis suck is ridiculous. Claiming Ferrari doesn't know how to build an engine doesn't make sense.
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You can keep your German car. I have been down that route. My Maserati has been way cheaper to run and own then any German or English car and I have owned both. So how much HP and what all was on the system? Lots of risk on a engine this expensive but its your dollars. If they are replacing everything you should be very happy.
So the big question is are you going to roll the dice again?
Yours is not the first one of there's that has gone boom from what I have read or had lots of issues. You boost the motor, change the ECU to run on the ragged edge and you blame the motor builder who never intended that power to be run at that level let alone with a full factory warranty? Really? So now they are all junk, lol. Please move on to another brand. There is enough assholes around already.
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Italians don't know what they are doing.
Go buy yourself a M3 or M5 put a tune on it and blow it up and see what the German's say?
I will tell you exactly what they will say.
"Asshole-What did you do to to break our finely engineered German machine?!!!!!!!!
Go buy yourself a M3 or M5 put a tune on it and blow it up and see what the German's say?
I will tell you exactly what they will say.
"Asshole-What did you do to to break our finely engineered German machine?!!!!!!!!
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Oh and don't get me wrong. When comes to warranty all the European manufactures are very poor. If Ford or GM tried 1/2 the things they do they would have the executives in jail.
You made the choice to mod the car. Why should Maserati warranty, lets just say the rear diff, if you put more HP through it then it was rated for? Or a rear sway bar. Or torq tube? I bet they will still warranty your radio but knowing Maserati NA don't bet on it. Why I will only buy a used Maserati or Ferrari that I have done my home work on prior to purchase.
Depreciation is way to much for the iffy warranty they provide.
You made the choice to mod the car. Why should Maserati warranty, lets just say the rear diff, if you put more HP through it then it was rated for? Or a rear sway bar. Or torq tube? I bet they will still warranty your radio but knowing Maserati NA don't bet on it. Why I will only buy a used Maserati or Ferrari that I have done my home work on prior to purchase.
Depreciation is way to much for the iffy warranty they provide.
I do have a 2013 m5 tuned by dinan...never a issue with the car besides add oil and go...how about this....second day with Maserati rear window blind motor blew out....2nd week with Maserati stereo system stopped working....first full month with car air condition system completely stopped working.....two weeks after that Bluetooth and navigation stopped working totally....whole unit was completely replaced....when i would ask how come the Bluetooth doesn't connect to my iphone...techs answer was the iphone is too advanced for the car....when i asked how come my bmw 750 Li doesn't have a problem he didn't know what to say now all these issues for a brand new car within one month.....even mechanics that work for Maserati and Ferrari claim Italian cars are nothing but a status symbol....I have owned jaguars range rovers bmws benzs.....never any issued with the cars besides getting a flat tire.... not to mention all my jags were supercharged so I always played with them from upper and lower supercharger pulleys and ecu tunes plus full race exhaust.....never any issues......all my cars purchased new....no used cars here my friend....lets face facts.....jump into a new Maserati and you will feel like you are in a Chrysler....there is nothing about these new maseratis that are worth going crazy about besides the Trident symbol on the grille......technology completed outdated. Like I said earlier in the post....first and last Maserati
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We are not going to miss you. You roll the dice you pay the price. Blow up that M5 and take to the dealer with the tune on it and tell what they say. If you had that many issues with a new car I would have used the lemon law. Sometimes you have a problem child. I had a MB SLK that MB replaced with anew car because it had issues. I will say the MB finally stepped up but it wasn't easy. Sounds like you tried the Novitec Supercharger and twisted the crank. When bolting a blower on with minimal internal changes you are looking for trouble. Period. That motor was not designed to run a blower. You can drop the compression ratio with but you still have the same internals. Boom after time. Seen it may times. The jag was designed to run a blower. Congratulations Einstein you just turned 160K into 80K if you are remotely lucky to sell that car to some unsuspecting fool.
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1. You won't win friends or sympathies here with that attitude - I suspect as you piss off more members here, your will start to feel worse about your situation.
2. You won't change our minds on what we think about our own cars - it's not like after we have heard your story which is very vague on crucial details, that we will all go rush to sell our cars or start bad-mouthing Maserati
3. Your story is deliberately vague on who's responsibility this falls to - you say the tuner is Novitec, and yet somehow Maserati installed it for you. If Novitec simply sold you some parts, why are they buying you a new engine? Did you authorise the upgrades by signing a piece of paper that foregoes warranty? You are trying to obfuscate the true culprit in order to be able to point finger at Maserati. That is irrational and we can all sense the disjoint logic, which is why nobody is supporting your position here.
4. I don't see why Maserati, the factory, should warranty their engine if you modify it with aftermarket upgrades of any kind. This keeps their costs lower and ultimately our cars cheaper. We are all thankful for it.
5. Perhaps it's time you moved on. There is no doubt Chryslers are cheaper. Good bye and good luck.
1. You won't win friends or sympathies here with that attitude - I suspect as you piss off more members here, your will start to feel worse about your situation.
2. You won't change our minds on what we think about our own cars - it's not like after we have heard your story which is very vague on crucial details, that we will all go rush to sell our cars or start bad-mouthing Maserati
3. Your story is deliberately vague on who's responsibility this falls to - you say the tuner is Novitec, and yet somehow Maserati installed it for you. If Novitec simply sold you some parts, why are they buying you a new engine? Did you authorise the upgrades by signing a piece of paper that foregoes warranty? You are trying to obfuscate the true culprit in order to be able to point finger at Maserati. That is irrational and we can all sense the disjoint logic, which is why nobody is supporting your position here.
4. I don't see why Maserati, the factory, should warranty their engine if you modify it with aftermarket upgrades of any kind. This keeps their costs lower and ultimately our cars cheaper. We are all thankful for it.
5. Perhaps it's time you moved on. There is no doubt Chryslers are cheaper. Good bye and good luck.
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There are three sides to every story.
1. The first Persons version
2. The second Person/witness version
3. Then there are the facts.
Not enough information here either way for all the animosity. As A guy that has build engines/Turbo/ Supercharged/High compression and tuned engines.
The tune regardless of who/whom installed it appears to be the issue. Regardless of who made the tune, after its installed it needs to verified on a dyno.. Air Fuel ratios and ignition timing are critical on a forced induction engine..Without a dyno tune its a stupid gamble and those that go that route quickly find out too much air and not enough fuel, or too much timing advance with positive pressure will destroy the very best engine in a matter of a second at high rpm. ASK me how I know.
Does not matter, Porsche Audi Ferrari Mercedes BMW Maserati + Forced induction + tune -dyno tuning =amateur night...
1. The first Persons version
2. The second Person/witness version
3. Then there are the facts.
Not enough information here either way for all the animosity. As A guy that has build engines/Turbo/ Supercharged/High compression and tuned engines.
The tune regardless of who/whom installed it appears to be the issue. Regardless of who made the tune, after its installed it needs to verified on a dyno.. Air Fuel ratios and ignition timing are critical on a forced induction engine..Without a dyno tune its a stupid gamble and those that go that route quickly find out too much air and not enough fuel, or too much timing advance with positive pressure will destroy the very best engine in a matter of a second at high rpm. ASK me how I know.
Does not matter, Porsche Audi Ferrari Mercedes BMW Maserati + Forced induction + tune -dyno tuning =amateur night...
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