Just purchased the car a few days ago and the first time I drove it over a RR crossing was this weekend. I heard a terrible rattle that seemed to be coming from under the front passenger seat. It seems like a clunking (i.e. metal on metal or metal on plastic). I'm wondering if something is loose with the passenger seat or perhaps a panel is loose in the undercarriage. Any help of where to look would be appreciated. Thanks.
Terrible Rattle... need help diagnosing please!
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Thanks for the details.
Is there other ball joints? Because they changed them last month, i had a squeek in the same place... Tomorow i'm going to the dealer and will ask if in my case if the bushing are replaced, will it solve the problem or need to replace the kit in the first place. Keep you updated
Image attached, is the ball joint near the 16 and same place in upper? Your saying this one cannot be changed?
Thanks
Is there other ball joints? Because they changed them last month, i had a squeek in the same place... Tomorow i'm going to the dealer and will ask if in my case if the bushing are replaced, will it solve the problem or need to replace the kit in the first place. Keep you updated
Image attached, is the ball joint near the 16 and same place in upper? Your saying this one cannot be changed?
Thanks
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If we are talking about the control arm ball joints, then you cannot replace them without replacing the control arms and if you replace the control arms, they come with the bushings. I'm not sure what ball joints they told you they replace?
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Today at the dealer and finaly, its tbe upper bushing that are dead, but they want to change all 3 arms, guess why lol. They dont change the bushings, will ask if somebody can change them here,
is it hard to pull them out? And in?
Do i have to change all 8 or only the ones that are dead?
Do i need geometry after this?
Thanks
Today at the dealer and finaly, its tbe upper bushing that are dead, but they want to change all 3 arms, guess why lol. They dont change the bushings, will ask if somebody can change them here,
is it hard to pull them out? And in?
Do i have to change all 8 or only the ones that are dead?
Do i need geometry after this?
Thanks
I've talked to three independent mechanics in the Dallas area that are all willing and able to change the bushings. It's not that big of a deal with the right tools.
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Oh great, i' going to ask today if here in france they can.
They told you sometjing to do in geometry or the amout to change?
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They told you sometjing to do in geometry or the amout to change?
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You will definitely need to re-do the front geometry after the change - otherwise you'll soon have the added expense of replacing the front tyres, not to mention driving quality and safety...
I was quoted $1000 by one, $700 by another and $450 by a third. Yes, you will most definitely need an alignment (i.e. reconfigure the geometry).
Good luck.
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Hi guys,
Asked today and 1 mechanic sais maybe he will
So do you suggest to change all 4 ? All 8 ? Or only 2 ?
Thanks
Asked today and 1 mechanic sais maybe he will
So do you suggest to change all 4 ? All 8 ? Or only 2 ?
Thanks
All 8Hi guys,
Asked today and 1 mechanic sais maybe he will
So do you suggest to change all 4 ? All 8 ? Or only 2 ?
Thanks
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Just yesterday I notice a little rattle when changing speeds at high RPM’s just between 2nd and 3rd gear, I feel the rattle under my sit and seeing what Eddy wrote just few posts ago, I am assuming that are the upper control arm bushing. Started to look for news and I found this recall.
Maserati Recall Campaign 09V001000 SUSPENSION | AutoMD
Amr…..I bet this is the reason why they fixed the issue for free
Anyone else had this recall done?
Maserati Recall Campaign 09V001000 SUSPENSION | AutoMD
Amr…..I bet this is the reason why they fixed the issue for free
Anyone else had this recall done?
Actually, I mentioned that to MNA and the campaign had already been performed on my car so that was not the reason. I believe the reason is that the car had been at another dealer with the same noise complaint and it was not properly addressed by the Maserati dealer.Just yesterday I notice a little rattle when changing speeds at high RPM’s just between 2nd and 3rd gear, I feel the rattle under my sit and seeing what Eddy wrote just few posts ago, I am assuming that are the upper control arm bushing. Started to look for news and I found this recall.
Maserati Recall Campaign 09V001000 SUSPENSION | AutoMD
Amr…..I bet this is the reason why they fixed the issue for free
Anyone else had this recall done?
As for the recall, if you call any dealer and give them you VIN, they should be able to tell you whether or not the campaign had been performed on your car. Good luck.
P.S. If it's a suspension issue, you should hear the rattle if the car is in neutral just coasting over bumps (i.e. RR tracks). If you're only hearing during shifting, then I'm afraid it may be a transmission/clutch issue.
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ouch, you made me nervous now. I actually not hear anything when idle but only when shifting at high RPM. when changing at low RPM no vibration is felt. yes it's more a vibration under my sit. I thought about the bushings since is likely coming from the front. While I will wait for the Dealership to check, is there anyone up there with the same issue?
Rattles
I also have the same rattle plus many others, the dashboard, the glove box and the rear back seat....very unexpected for this car. Also, the radio reception and Sirius does not have proper reception. The dealer told me the manufacture is aware of the problem; they believe it is antenna related; though, they stated there is no solution yet.
I also have the same rattle plus many others, the dashboard, the glove box and the rear back seat....very unexpected for this car. Also, the radio reception and Sirius does not have proper reception. The dealer told me the manufacture is aware of the problem; they believe it is antenna related; though, they stated there is no solution yet.
I have been having the exact same problem on my 2007 QP.
A rattle coming from the front passenger's side when I go over a rough road.
I brought the car to 3 mechanics and no one is sure of what it is. So far I have replaced the tie-rod ends, the sway bar links and bushings.
If I am driving on the highway and "hit" an expansion joint, no noise.
Car steers straight and when I brake hard, there is no bouncing that might suggest a bad shock.
The Maserati dealer says that the Upper and Lower Control Arm bushings look fine and thinks I might need a new shock absorber. The part alone is $950, but he won't guarantee it will fix my problem.
As to new bushings, Maserati no longer offers bushings. You have to buy a kit for $950 that includes the upper and lower control arms and the hub.
Any advice?
A rattle coming from the front passenger's side when I go over a rough road.
I brought the car to 3 mechanics and no one is sure of what it is. So far I have replaced the tie-rod ends, the sway bar links and bushings.
If I am driving on the highway and "hit" an expansion joint, no noise.
Car steers straight and when I brake hard, there is no bouncing that might suggest a bad shock.
The Maserati dealer says that the Upper and Lower Control Arm bushings look fine and thinks I might need a new shock absorber. The part alone is $950, but he won't guarantee it will fix my problem.
As to new bushings, Maserati no longer offers bushings. You have to buy a kit for $950 that includes the upper and lower control arms and the hub.
Any advice?
Problem solved. It was the forward bushing on the upper control arm.
After posting my question yesterday, I found I had some time on my hands, so I decided to disassemble the front suspension myself.
Took less than an hour to remove the upper control arm. Only when removed was it obvious that the forward bushing was destroyed.
Took the arm to my Maserati dealer and it turns out you can buy replacement bushings for the arm. Not the bushings that connects to the hub, but the 4 other bushings cost $250 from the dealer.
I repeat, for a 2007 QP you do not have to buy the kit which includes upper and lower control arms and hub. These parts would have cost $950 plus the huge labor cost that others have quoted on this post to install them.
I decided to replace only the bad bushing. Maserati did not have the tool to replace it so I went to my local shop where I was charged $20 to do the job.
Total cost to fix the problem was $270 plus sales tax and I still have 3 bushings that I have not used yet. If anyone needs them, they are for sale.
Total time to repair was 2 hours plus the time to drive to Maserati of Bergen County and then to my local mechanic.
One hint. When removing the arm, keep track of where the shims are.
Hope this info is useful.
Joe Vargas
After posting my question yesterday, I found I had some time on my hands, so I decided to disassemble the front suspension myself.
Took less than an hour to remove the upper control arm. Only when removed was it obvious that the forward bushing was destroyed.
Took the arm to my Maserati dealer and it turns out you can buy replacement bushings for the arm. Not the bushings that connects to the hub, but the 4 other bushings cost $250 from the dealer.
I repeat, for a 2007 QP you do not have to buy the kit which includes upper and lower control arms and hub. These parts would have cost $950 plus the huge labor cost that others have quoted on this post to install them.
I decided to replace only the bad bushing. Maserati did not have the tool to replace it so I went to my local shop where I was charged $20 to do the job.
Total cost to fix the problem was $270 plus sales tax and I still have 3 bushings that I have not used yet. If anyone needs them, they are for sale.
Total time to repair was 2 hours plus the time to drive to Maserati of Bergen County and then to my local mechanic.
One hint. When removing the arm, keep track of where the shims are.
Hope this info is useful.
Joe Vargas
I have the same car, 2007 QP, with the same diagnosis from 2 shops, upper bushings. Like you, I didn't want to replace the control arms to fix the upper bushings, just what's worn.
The dealer refused to do just the bushings and my indie says he 'doesn't have the special "expensive" bushings tool that only a Maserati dealer would have'. Since your local mechanic was able to do it, I wouldn't think that there is a 'special tool', a good bushings toolset would do it. Might be my indie just didn't want to do the 'smaller' job...
Any guidance on this would be greatly appreciated!
The part number for the bushing kit is 980139889. Back in 2014, I paid $250 at the parts counter at my local Maserati Dealer for the kit.
My local mechanic charged me $20 to remove the one bad bushing and install the new one. While I only replace the bad bushing, I probably should have replace both.
After replacing the upper control arm myself, I tool the car to my local Firestone dealer for a wheel alignment. They offer lifetime wheel alignments for a flat $170.
Any other questions, just ask?
My local mechanic charged me $20 to remove the one bad bushing and install the new one. While I only replace the bad bushing, I probably should have replace both.
After replacing the upper control arm myself, I tool the car to my local Firestone dealer for a wheel alignment. They offer lifetime wheel alignments for a flat $170.
Any other questions, just ask?
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Aren't these bushes available at a standard suspension shop eg in Australia we have a group or two one is fulcrum suspension the other is peddlers and both make bushes to order in different grades from soft to hard rubber to nylon and they are not expensive.
Do you have the same type of shops there.
Do you have the same type of shops there.
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