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Buying a Quattoporte 2008-2011

I'm a new forum user from Ankeny, IA, looking to fulfill my dream of finally owning a Maserati. I'm originally from Europe and not a stranger to Italian cars and their quirks, I've had 3 Alfa Romeos among others. As a dad for two young daughters I'm limited by budget but also need some space to enjoy my fun car with the kiddos and wife. This car will be strictly a fun can that will be driven during the weekends and such - not looking to add a daily driver.

I have been looking for Quattroportes between 2008 and 2011. The facelifted models from 2009 and on seem to carry a premium whereas 2008's can be found even under 20K with reasonable miles. Are there any reasons why I should spend more and get a facelift? If that saves me big repair bills in the future I'm willing to flex my budget. I'm aware of the cam variator issue in 2010 and older QP's, but is there something else I should consider? Have these cars had issues with the skyhook suspension? I understood the Sport GT S models come with regular dampers and have actually contacted a dealership about a 2008 Sport GT S.

Any other tips and information is appreciated. Also if you are looking to sell your Maserati, please feel free to message me.
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I would probably pony up for a facelifted car...The lights looks better and you can probably find one that has already or came with the updated variators...Not a lot of issues with skyhook...GTS cars are a bit spicy and the ride is stiff....Good luck...Jason

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Thanks Jason! I do prefer the facelifted interior better too. How big is the difference in performance between 4.2 and 4.7? Looks like there’s some reasonable priced 4.7’s out there too.

Are there any high mileage QP’s at the the forum? Does a well maintained higher mileage QP make any sense at all if one can be had at a good price? I realize regardless of the mileage there will be repairs and maintenance in the future that are more expensive than in my dd.

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I would probably pony up for a facelifted car...The lights looks better and you can probably find one that has already or came with the updated variators...Not a lot of issues with skyhook...GTS cars are a bit spicy and the ride is stiff....Good luck...Jason
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i purchased a pre-loved 2012 QP GTS last year with 48k miles. I researched the full provenance on the car, and it came with 2 year factory CPO left. The variators were previously replaced and I made sure the new design had been installed by the M-dealer before I pulled the trigger. The ride is firm - personally, I would not call it "stiff", your vote may vary - and sharp impacts, like tar strips, are pretty well absorbed by the suspension (no Skyhook on my GTS; it was never an option on this car). I love this car.
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They began production of the Automatica QP in 07. My old QP was an Executive I sold it 3 years back with 32k miles recent tires and 30k service. The potential variator issue was a big reason I let it go. Esthetically, I loved the classic mesh grille, wood steering wheel and wood center console. So donít rule out late 07 Automaticas.

The car you zero in on may have seen an Auction or two so be sure to check for 2 key fobs ($500 ea. to replace), owners manuals, tool kit, first aid kit and spare tire. I could never buy a used car without personally seeing it, which is a problem where you live but many do.

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I honestly don't feel much difference between a 4.2 or 4.7 car....You are dealing with a fairly heavy car and a 500cc difference...I would rather have a nice 4.2 then a crappy 4.7 car all things considered....J

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I honestly don't feel much difference between a 4.2 or 4.7 car....You are dealing with a fairly heavy car and a 500cc difference...I would rather have a nice 4.2 then a crappy 4.7 car all things considered....J
I second that, Iíve owned both and engine size isnít the difference when it comes to the ultimate experience.

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I had a QP Sport-GT with the 4.2, and while the 4.7 and it does feel slightly quicker, most of the horsepower and torque that the 4.7 has over the 4.2 is lost due to the ZF Automatic. I would think that taking into account all the variations in manufacturing, there are a few "strong" 4.2's out there that will equal or exceed some 4.7's.
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i purchased a pre-loved 2012 QP GTS last year with 48k miles. I researched the full provenance on the car, and it came with 2 year factory CPO left. The variators were previously replaced and I made sure the new design had been installed by the M-dealer before I pulled the trigger. The ride is firm - personally, I would not call it "stiff", your vote may vary - and sharp impacts, like tar strips, are pretty well absorbed by the suspension (no Skyhook on my GTS; it was never an option on this car). I love this car.
I don't understand why the variators would have to be fixed in a 2012 model... this story is possibly the dealer blowing smoke as usual.

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I don't understand why the variators would have to be fixed in a 2012 model... this story is possibly the dealer blowing smoke as usual.

It does seem unlikely, but it is engine number, not age of build that determines the variator.

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But I thought we've been told here by experts that the engine number series changed from "bad" to "fixed" in the middle of the 2010 model production run. Meaning it is impossible for any 2011+ models to have the bad variators. With 2010 models you have to double-check.

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All Maserati engines from engine number 150070 onwards (production starting from
September 2010) use a new type of VVT-actuator manufactured by INA.


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Thanks for all the responses guys, very valid points were brought up! Now is there a way to confirm anywhere if the variators have been fixed or not if there’s no documentation ? Does a Maserati dealer share that information based on vin or no? There are some competitively priced 2009’s out there so I was wondering.
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Definitely not too many Maseratis for sale around here haha! I’m not in a rush and will probably travel to see the car before final purchase decision. There’s one low mileage 2006 DuoSelect for sale here which I plan to go check out this week. Based on the price I expect it to need some work.

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They began production of the Automatica QP in 07. My old QP was an Executive I sold it 3 years back with 32k miles recent tires and 30k service. The potential variator issue was a big reason I let it go. Esthetically, I loved the classic mesh grille, wood steering wheel and wood center console. So don’t rule out late 07 Automaticas.

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So - I took the plunge 2 years ago and bought a 2010 QP GTS - no regrets!

I would buy the 4.7 - it’s engineering is better in many regards - suspension is tougher (stronger wishbones) fewer clutch issues and generally better build quality - in my opinion (please no rants). I have also owned a 4.7S so have plenty of experience.

On variators I am not sure the engine number quoted (150...) is correct but I would say have seen this discussed in other forums Maserati seem to have a unique approach to using the engines - you can’t just rely on a date- you must check the engine number on every car

Common problems are cracked water expansion tank, leaking cam gaskets (expensive), fan resistor, power steering box leaking seals.

I would say go for it BUT get the car inspected by an expert
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