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Looking to buy a 2012 S. What to check?

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I'm considering buying a 2012 QP S that has 60K on it (37.5K Miles) and I need to know what things are an absolute must to check for on these cars. It's a 1 owner car and the dealer says they have the service history so I want to know what services should have been done and what I need to be looking for in the records. I still do plan on finding someone with experience to do a PPI if everything looks good to me and the dealer meets my price. I just want to know things I can look at for myself. I'm familiar with cars in general, but I know these have their own unique things about them that I'm not familiar with. I've already went through pages and pages of threads on here, but most of them seem to be about older years, and from my understanding, a lot of issues that some of the older cars had were rectified by time 2011-2012 came around, so I'm interested in things specific to the last years.

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Check to see if you think the electrics/computer are working. Telltale sign is if the clock is giving the wrong time. Are the parking sensors working? Any warning lights. It seems the main processor goes awry and is about 2000 to fix. I have decided not to replace mine due to cost but it is a bit frustrating that the clock doesnt work and every now and then a small electrical malfunction occurs... little things like loss of parking sensor operation (it comes back), mirrors not unfolding etc
Beautiful car though!

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Thanks for the reply. I think I'm going to go take it for a drive tomorrow and see how I like it. I've never driven one before, I've just always liked how they looked and sounded.
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So with my 2011 S with 40,000 miles it needed... engine mounts, valve cover gaskets, belts, oil change, and the big thing was the a/c compressor pulley had a wobble which was a worn shaft not the bearing. Check your service history to see if any of those things have been done. Also brakes/rotors may be ready for replacement at that mileage and TPMS sensor batteries (in the wheels) might be at the end of life if still original.

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Thank you 2fromtheCouve and keith.willey1 in a few hours I will go check what's what, I know they are going to try to fight me on the price but they can keep it at the 48,800 Cdn (36,500 USD) that they are asking for it. I'm not paying more than 43K (32K USD), which I think is still a couple thousand too much, but it's the only 2012 for sale in the country so I don't have too much leverage. The PPI will have to pretty much be perfect for me to take it at that price.
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FliGuy, please do not get your hopes up. You will be lucky if they budge $800 on the price. It is a pretty rare car as you mention and it is also pretty sought after. If you want to save $5k, one option is to go with a low mileage 2011. Some 2013s (QP6) are actually cheaper also. Good luck in your efforts.
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I have a 2010 Q S with 71k on it now. Absolutely love the car, still after all this time. I purchased mine around the same miles that you are. At 37.5k the dealer states oil change, air filter, spark plugs. Spark plugs are NGK and the dealer wants $46 per, same models on Amazon for 10 for $160. I would look at the oil, and ask if the dealer did the last schedules main. 1 owner I’d say you’re in good shape. Some people by cars like this and simply can’t afford the maintenance. Check the break pads, rotors. Look for any oil or leeks at the rear diff, under the engine. Are the window motors tired? Check the trunk lid shocks, does it open all the way? Check the front end on a life and wiggle each tire left to right to see if there is any play. Changing tire rods is a nightmare. Must purchase assemble for 3k. Check the tire pressure sensors. These are just my suggestions from my own experience.
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Even rarer that a 2012 S, is someone willing to buy a used Maserati that is out of warranty. Dealers have a very hard time selling these cars so the price drops and drops unless they can sit on it for 8 months or more waiting for that one guy. They might not know how rare it is or care, so compare the price to older ones and dont be afraid to lowball. There's nothing like paying $25 grand for a car that should be worth at least $65 grand.

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They came down 2K, but it's not enough. Then he said he can't do anything else, I said okay thank you, I understand and went to get up, and then he says, I can bring an offer of 44,500 to my boss. He went back and forth about how it's the only 2012 for sale, the others are 2011 with more miles and blah, blah, blah. I told him I understand that which is why I was offering 3k more than what the 2011 up the street is going for. So I told him you know what, I'll come up to 44K if I do the PPI and I'm happy with it, he says "Wow, not $500 more at the 44,500?" I told him no, 44K is already more than I think it's worth and I don't need the car. I told him the check is waiting at the bank for you guys whenever you get tired of looking at the car since it's already been there for 7 months because it's priced too high. I told him no hard feelings or anything, if you can't make the deal you can't make the deal, but you have my number if you're able to make the deal work. He said okay I'll let you know and I left. 44K cdn is about 33K USD. So now we wait, lol. Thank you all for your advice and thoughts. It LOOKS to be in excellent condition, motor runs smoothly, everything seems to be working in the car, no sticky buttons or anything. If he tells me they can do the 44K, I'll go take it for a drive and then set up the PPI. I'll keep you posted.
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Good job. They would be crazy not to take your deal. Maybe the only hang up on their end would be if they paid too much for it as a trade in... but I doubt it.

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So after complete radio silence for over a week from the dealer, I hit them up today and they said they'd do $44,500 cdn (33,250 USD). 1 owner local car. I'm just convincing myself that I really want it, and then I'm going to setup a PPI for tomorrow. The Carfax looks clean.
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Great FLiGuy...good luck! Keep us posted...!
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Took the car for a drive today. It was smooth, tight, everything seemed perfect. I sent it to get a pre purchase inspection, if everything checks out, I guess I've just signed my life away! We'll see how this plays out tomorrow.
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So this is the list of things found wrong with the car from the inspection:

-Front rotors need replacing, rear rotors are at the bare safety requirements
-Expansion Tank is cracking
-All of the lower mesh inserts for the grill are rusted and the center one is loose (I saw this the dealer said they'd paint them)
-Steering wheel vibration and pulls to the left at highway speeds
-L/F and R/F wheels slightly bent on the inner barrels
-Power Steering pump area was damp, they said they would have needed more time to investigate and see what's causing it
-L/R and R/F outer door trims starting to form rust inside (under the rubber trim that goes around the window, I saw this too)
-Small dent in front door
-60K kms Service recommended

Grand Total - $6500

I told myself if the inspection came back with problems I'd just walk away, but a little part of me is wondering if I should see what the dealer selling the car will say? If they agree to fix everything should I still go ahead? I don't even know if I could trust that they would do it. Everyone chime in, I'd love to hear the opinions.
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FliGuy, please do not get your hopes up. You will be lucky if they budge $800 on the price. It is a pretty rare car as you mention and it is also pretty sought after. If you want to save $5k, one option is to go with a low mileage 2011. Some 2013s (QP6) are actually cheaper also. Good luck in your efforts.
08 - You mentioned it is a pretty rare car and one that is sought after. I have the 2012 S but have never heard that it has any features that distinguish it from others. Could you elaborate ? Thanks!

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