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post #1 of 15 Old 12-29-2018, 08:46 AM Thread Starter
 
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After the GranTurismo

I think I will sell it in the summer 2019, so far I am considering:

1. Aston Martin Vantage V8 (minimum MY 2008)

2. BMW i8

3. Porsche 911 991

BMW Milano lent me the i8 as a test drive for a day, I was quite impressed by the performances and the looks. Sound-wise, of course, it was lacking.

Any thoughts, advices, experiences with those cars? I trust this forum a lot, and you might have owned/own one of these and point me to things I should consider. For instance, I heard the automatic transmission in Vantages are awful.

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Wow, no answers on this yet ? Surely we must have some members who own or have owned one or more of those three cars ..

As a non-owner who has only driven two of those ( the AM and the 991 ) for a very short period of time ..less than half hour .. I'd choose the AM , hands down ! But then again I'm biased, I don't care at all for the looks of the 911 body style . Nor the sound , and much less when compared to the glorious exhaust note of the Aston Martin . I do like the looks of the I8 but don't know much else about it , other than as a hybrid you may need to plug it in, and if I recall correctly from another post, the location where you typically park your GT during the day ( the downtown Milan parking lot ) there are no convenient electrical outlets . Do they have Ecar charge stations though ? Also not crazy about the exhaust note of the I 8 - too weak . Especially when you're coming off of a Maserati GT.

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Ahah thank you for helping! And you are very right, I do not have an outlet in my parking space, but I thought the i8 would not be too bad since the car recharges its own batteries in Sport mode plus there are many stations down town. But I might be wrong, and this might pose a problem.
I like the car because of the looks and tech, it is really like being in a prototype and after the GT, it changes a lot. Running costs are a bonus too. Downsides are of course that abysmally small thermal engine, brand prestige not as high as the others and maybe it is a car that you could get bored of it pretty quickly, being so weird.

I am also looking at manuals Vantages, the idea of shifting again after two cars with automatics is somewhat enticing. Plus, I have been told that its Sportshift semi-auto transmission is not really good. Here, prestige is there, rarity as well, I just think it would be not too different from the Maserati, as an experience. Plus, the MY 2019 just came out.

911: I like them, the shape, the heritage, the philosophy, the engine so far back there... but they really are the Golf of the sports car. I mean, there must be very good reasons for that, but they are also a bit too common. And it's incredible how they hold their price! The money that can buy you a 2012 Panamera GTS (ugly as sin) does not get you a basic 2012 991.


I am also open to other suggestions, in the similar price range.

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911s are so common here in the SF Bay Area, they get as much attention as a Honda Accord . Of course that should never be a consideration when buying a car, IMO, but it is a bonus, particularly when you leave your car with a hotel or restaurant valet, or do like to see heads turn when you drive down the street . The only car more common around these parts than a 911 is Tesla, you can't throw a stick in the air without hitting a dozen Teslas on its way down Very annoying ( the multitude of Teslas ) but maybe that's just me , they're almost reaching the same level of contempt I hold for Prius . But I digress, and as I said hopefully others will chime in with opinions and suggestions on those three car choices and perhaps some others as the post-GT era vehicle .

Jaguar F-type ( R ) maybe ... ?

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I kinda like the Model S, here it's not very common. But it's a no-go for sure since I have no place to charge it.


The F-Type could be interesting, especially because you can say ''Yes, I have a Jaaaaaaaag.''


Oh well, time will tell.

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A small, update: the Maserati left me at the beginning of April and I bought this, N420 limited edition, number 70 of 420 ever made!


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Well done ! As I have said before , IMO, the only alternative in the same class and league as the GT. You replaced beautiful with beautiful.
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So what are your comparison thoughts? Beautiful car!
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Yes I would be interested in your thoughts on both.



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Thanks guys!

So, right off the bat, I found the Vantage to be more nimble, sporty, agile. It has to be noted the N420 has the Sport Pack by default, hence stiffer suspensions. Tires are 245/35R19 on the front and 285/40R19 on the back, the Bridgestone Potenza are really stiff too. I will replace them with more up-to-date tires when they will be done.

I really feel the car is shorter and acceleration is better. I also have around 30 more HP and weighs less. Direction is way more direct. It's the typical difference between a gran tourer and a sport car. I think the Vantage could be considered as a V8 front-engined 911.

The SportShift transmission is... well, an acquired taste. Gear changes can be very bumpy, the ZF true auto in the Mase was way smoother. You can have fun with this but it is for sure the weak point of the car. Plus, at some point down the line, I will be facing a clutch change bill, just like the F1 transmission.

Sound is cool, a deeper than my Larini set up on the Maserati. The N420 has a specific sport muffler, with valves that open at 3000 RPM (instead of 4000). The GT was clearly a shouting Italian, this one is a bit more subtle and a little bit toward muscle car I would say. I can pull a fuse to have valves open all the time, will try.

Seats are VERY comfortable, even more than the GT. Sometimes, during long drives, my back wasn't in the best of shapes out of the Maserati (I am almost 2 meters tall!). Here, after 900 km from Paris to Milano, I was peach. I have the normal sport seats, sometimes N420 comes with the full carbon bucket ones, which loses back inclination and heating. Super cool, but better for track days and less so for trips, so I am fine. Speaking of carbon, this edition has front splitter, side vents, door sills and back diffuser, I love it.

Consumption is in favour of the Aston, but not by much.

Interior materials are VERY good, a step up from the GT. Everything you touch is either alcantara, leather or metal. Having that much metal everywhere and plastic being the exception is very cool (even the fuel cap is aluminium!) and pretty unusual in this day & age. Passengers notice it too. Very premium and British in a nice way.

Gizmos are, well, pretty basic. The sat nav was better in the GT so that's saying something. I also lost automatic wipers & lights. But got back automatic mirrors dipping on rear gear that I had on my Range Rover (it must be a British thing) and found it to be a real rim-saver when you park close to a sidewalk.

Cargo room is decent, you loose of course the backseats, but you have a shelf right behind you, a couple bags can fit. Trunk is decent, by removing the parcel shelf you can pile up a decent amount of luggage up to the rear window.

Working on it: I have done some super basic stuff, like cleaning the engine and replacing the external air sensor, but the feeling is that the engine bay is a bit more roomy and better organised. Maybe also because the Aston has less engine covers, just a metal one in the front. Both engines are a beauty.

Styling is stunning on both, two of the best cars on the road for me. People tend to appreciate too, here in Italy I had all kind of persons staring and thumbing up with both. Of course the Aston gets the James Bond comment on top of it and the car being Quantum Silver, the colour Daniel Craig had on the DBS in Casino Royale, helps. The GT was heard before seen though!

All in all, I feel both car are complementary, meaning that if you have a GranTurismo and then you change to a Vantage, you will be pretty happy but the other way round is also true.

The DB9 will probably offer a GranTurismo-like experience, but with 4 more cylinders which I would not say no to!

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IF the GT had the new inside technology and you had to purchase both all over again in your color choice....which one?



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What is this , “ Sophie’s Choice “ ??
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What is this , “ Sophie’s Choice “ ??

Aahaha!


I think you should ask me in a couple years, now it's:


a. too soon to evaluate the Vantage in a complete way


b. still in the honey moon phase

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Just my opinion, but a comparison of the Maserati GT would be more relevant to a DB 11 , or even a DB 9 , I think a Vantage is a completely different animal...
Never mind the number of cylinders, the entire platforms of the cars ( Vantage vs Maserati GT ) are too different, whereas the DB9-11 platform is a bit more similar..
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Just my opinion, but a comparison of the Maserati GT would be more relevant to a DB 11 , or even a DB 9 , I think a Vantage is a completely different animal...
Never mind the number of cylinders, the entire platforms of the cars ( Vantage vs Maserati GT ) are too different, whereas the DB9-11 platform is a bit more similar..

We are on the same page.


I have never tried the DBanynumber but it is definitely a GT.


The Vantage's answer from Maserati could be this fabled Alfieri, if and when they will make it happen.

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