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GranSport Spyder issues

Hi all,

Just picked up a new (to me) Gransport Spyder yesterday. And already I'm getting warning lights.

They seem rather random, and always reset when I turn the car on/off. Both time they popped up after 30 minutes or so of driving.

The first time (photo 1) they included the trunk open light? 2nd time added all the suspension warnings. Trunk was definitely closed...

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That is not the "trunk open" light. That is a fault in your transmission, i.e., your clutch or your F1 system.

It could be detecting separate faults in the body and trans systems.

If they appear and go away at the same time, then it could your ABS system. If more than one of the ABS piston sensors fail at the same time, for example, it sends the command to not only shut off your ABS, MSR, and ride settings, but also triggers a recovery mode in your F1, causing it to illuminate the light and shift erratically. If only one sensor fails, then it does not affect the F1 system.

This is only one guess of 100 things that you could be wrong, so I highly recommend you get it scanned with a SD as soon as possible. DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR with a trans fault.

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That is not the "trunk open" light. That is a fault in your transmission, i.e., your clutch or your F1 system.
Uh oh. Sigh.
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That is not the "trunk open" light. That is a fault in your transmission, i.e., your clutch or your F1 system.

It could be detecting separate faults in the body and trans systems.

If they appear and go away at the same time, then it could your ABS system. If more than one of the ABS piston sensors fail at the same time, for example, it sends the command to not only shut off your ABS, MSR, and ride settings, but also triggers a recovery mode in your F1, causing it to illuminate the light and shift erratically. If only one sensor fails, then it does not affect the F1 system.

This is only one guess of 100 things that you could be wrong, so I highly recommend you get it scanned with a SD as soon as possible. DO NOT DRIVE THE CAR with a trans fault.
I noticed no discernible difference in driving or shifting when the lights were illuminated. That said, I will have it checked out ASAP. Thanks!
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The one on the right is the trunk open light. The wires in the loom by trunk hinge need to be checked, they have a tendency to break.

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Update:

Lights went on again during my drive home (suspension and trans). Took a mile for me to find a turn-off, and in that time the lights went away. No change in driving or shifting.
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The one on the right is the trunk open light. The wires in the loom by trunk hinge need to be checked, they have a tendency to break.
It's really not. As Erik says it's F1 fault.

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Sorry can't help much, all my knowledge is about a regular coupe that I've had for the last 7 years.

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i chuckled. well played catman.

B R: coupe, spyder, gransport are very much related.

the left light of the car with arrows is electronic suspenion. wheel acceleration sensors, on the front in particular, are finnicky. not wheel speed, but wheel acceleration for suspension travel.
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Drove it back to the dealer today, but they won't be able to look at it until monday.

On the 1 hour drive, I had a rotating array of ABS, MSP, Trans, and suspension. And a steady check engine.

They tend to come on in pairs, or all at once.
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That sounds like a fairly classic battery problem. But an extreme case perhaps.

Those systems aren't linked so either you've got a total lemon or the lights are not really telling the truth.

ABS / MSP / ASR can be wheel bearing.
Suspension could be faulty accelerometer.
Trans might be low fluid
CEL could be anything (but at least an ODBII check will show probably what that is)

Voltage fluctuations can do all sorts of weird things.....

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Shop says it was ABS sensors. Get it back Friday. Fingers crossed!
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Shop says it was ABS sensors. Get it back Friday. Fingers crossed!
Wheel bearing then. Good stuff and fingers crossed!

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Seems voltage issues from a worn battery made my clock run slowly. Almost replaced that clock....glad I didn’t before putting in a new battery. Clock is running right on now.

Who knows what else a faulty battery could cause
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