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I replaced the brake master cylinder. Bench bled it. Bled the brakes. Do I need to bleed the ABS with a scan tool? Will the Foxwell NT650 bleed the ABS? Will the NT650 read any of the clutch settings in a CC? Any suggestions on bleeding the brakes? Thanks

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What made you replace your brake master cylinder? Do you have a Foxwell NT650 and why if not sure what it can do?

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What made you replace your brake master cylinder? Do you have a Foxwell NT650 and why if not sure what it can do?
I have not been happy with how my brake peddle feels. When driving, and stop, it seems the peddle sinks about an inch. I am thinking about getting a scanner, I don't have one yet.

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Iím no expert here but maybe our member, Jason will chime in. Also, Iím no Foxwell fan (read the NT520 post on this forum) so be carful before buying a reader.

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Did you bleed both sides of every caliper? There's a bleed screw on each side so it's not like a normal car.
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Did you bleed both sides of every caliper? There's a bleed screw on each side so it's not like a normal car.
Yes. I have tried 3 different master cylinders also. I tried a suction bleeder, and traditional pump the pedal bleeding. It's making me crazy. I am going to replace the one way valve in the pneumatic line from the booster to the engine.

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The pistons in the master cylinder may not be returning enough to allow the master cylinder to fill with fluid. Try pulling the brake pedal up after each stroke and see if that helps. There's a return spring on the pedal that may have failed. But if you're using aftermarket master cylinders you need to make sure the pedal stroke is allowing them to fill.
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The pistons in the master cylinder may not be returning enough to allow the master cylinder to fill with fluid. Try pulling the brake pedal up after each stroke and see if that helps. There's a return spring on the pedal that may have failed. But if you're using aftermarket master cylinders you need to make sure the pedal stroke is allowing them to fill.
OEM parts. The pedal returns all the way. THX

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One last comment. When I look the ABS assembly is the high point in the system. Did you totally drain the brake system? If you did you may need one of these https://www.amazon.ca/Motive-Product...63574526&psc=1 to force fluid into the system.
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I would try bleeding the master cyl. again on the car...They can be a PITA to get air out of...Have another person pump the pedal hard and hold it..Go back and forth and crack the two lines on the M/C...Don't forget to wash off the brake fluid with water....Good Luck..Jason

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I would try bleeding the master cyl. again on the car...They can be a PITA to get air out of...Have another person pump the pedal hard and hold it..Go back and forth and crack the two lines on the M/C...Don't forget to wash off the brake fluid with water....Good Luck..Jason

Thank you,,, I am very confident of my bleeding. I bench bled the MC with bench bleeding tubes, then installed the brake lines while still in the vice. Still wondering if anybody uses a scanner to bleed the ABS system.

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Hi, I bought a FOXWELL NT650 scan tool after being told by FOXWELL that it would work on my 2002 Coupe. Now I find it is useless on the older 4200's . No better than a $15.00 OBD. Colin
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Hi, I bought a FOXWELL NT650 scan tool after being told by FOXWELL that it would work on my 2002 Coupe. Now I find it is useless on the older 4200's . No better than a $15.00 OBD. Colin
Ouch. Sorry to hear that. I was on the fence about buying one myself. After exchanging emails with their customer service and trying to read through the broken grammar and incomplete answers, I decided against the purchase. Thanks for confirming it here for myself and others on the forum, but sorry it had to be you!

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Hi, I bought a FOXWELL NT650 scan tool after being told by FOXWELL that it would work on my 2002 Coupe. Now I find it is useless on the older 4200's . No better than a $15.00 OBD. Colin
I sent mine back but it dose read the Maserati codes. It does not live up to any of the other claims.

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I was told by two different sellers that the Vident 450 would do a ABS bleed on the 04 coupe,,,,, NOT. It will read the other codes. It does have many other functions. For $160, not a bad scanner. It does do most euro, asian and US cars. It will bleed the Quatro m139, Gran turismo M145, Ghibl. I am hoping they can add the Coupe to the program.

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