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post #31 of 41 Old 06-06-2018, 05:23 AM
 
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I too can start the car without depressing the clutch. I have not used cruise in a while but will test this out too.

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A few questions on the 6MT setup. (2004 coupe with 20k miles)

-The car doesn't like to slip into 2nd gear easily when cold, is that typical? Sometimes a bit of a clash/grind.

-The shifter itself seems to have a lot of free play, even when in a gear (side to side) is that normal?

-In neutral the shifter lays well to the left, normal?

In past BMW's I've replaced the shifter "socket" and other fittings to tighten things up. It's a known issue. Anything like like that for the coupes?

-I assume the transmission is Ferrari? Amazing to me that they went to F1/CC with such a stubborn transmission.
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A few questions on the 6MT setup. (2004 coupe with 20k miles)

-The car doesn't like to slip into 2nd gear easily when cold, is that typical? Sometimes a bit of a clash/grind.

-The shifter itself seems to have a lot of free play, even when in a gear (side to side) is that normal?

-In neutral the shifter lays well to the left, normal?

In past BMW's I've replaced the shifter "socket" and other fittings to tighten things up. It's a known issue. Anything like like that for the coupes?

-I assume the transmission is Ferrari? Amazing to me that they went to F1/CC with such a stubborn transmission.
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Don't shift to second at less than 3k rpm. You're synchronising the drive shaft as well so more mass and you do need a hairy arm.

Sideways play is normal.

In neutral the shifter lines up on the 3/4 gears. Push to left to get 1/2 and push to right to get 5/6. Not sure it's "left".

I'm not aware of shifter improvements. There are very few 6MT's (about 1,600 coupes and spyders made) so no market.

I believe it's an Oerlikon Graziano transmission and they have an impressive list of supercar clients . Remember it's built to hydraulically slam shift in thousandths of a second at high horsepower and rpm. It has triple cone syncros on 1 & 2 and double cone syncros on the other gears. It's "stubborn" because of what it's capable of doing. I've never heard of a transmission failure for 6MT or CC.

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Comments to your points

Don't shift to second at less than 3k rpm. You're synchronising the drive shaft as well so more mass and you do need a hairy arm.

Sideways play is normal.

In neutral the shifter lines up on the 3/4 gears. Push to left to get 1/2 and push to right to get 5/6. Not sure it's "left".

I'm not aware of shifter improvements. There are very few 6MT's (about 1,600 coupes and spyders made) so no market.

I believe it's an Oerlikon Graziano transmission and they have an impressive list of supercar clients . Remember it's built to hydraulically slam shift in thousandths of a second at high horsepower and rpm. It has triple cone syncros on 1 & 2 and double cone syncros on the other gears. It's "stubborn" because of what it's capable of doing. I've never heard of a transmission failure for 6MT or CC.
Thanks Tony, I'm a bit thick, but your comments helped me figure it out.

The car wants/needs to be rev matched a bit. If I hold the pedal down slightly, or blip it, during shifts it slips into the next gear flawlessly. It doesn't like my grandma-slow shifting which lets the motor rpm drop to idle. Go figure, who would have thought it wants to be driven with a bit more gusto....doh. (I'm commuting with the car, so will have to get up a bit earlier and get some coffee in me before I venture out, lol)

I'm still going to take a look at the mechanism and see if there is anything to do to tighten it up. Maybe we should be machining aluminum gates for them.......
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See also my post in the below thread. Doesn't hurt to take a look at the spring on the clutch pedel. As far as a gates, I too would love to see that, tried bringing it to light here, but seems too many obstacles to overcome..

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Had this done.
Results were noticeable and as expected not dramatic.
Worth it in my opinion.
Thanks to the OP - Sanmiam
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Tony, thanks for checking. With my cruise on and I depress the clutch, car will slow down and coast and the engine starts revving faster.
I have to tap brake to disengage cruise. Pressing resume will resume cruise. I do not look forward to changing switch. Just getting in position on my back to view clutch pedal switch was a bitch.
Does anyone have a pn for the clutch switch? or better yet a good source?

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Does anyone have a pn for the clutch switch? or better yet a good source?
Thanks for the reminder.
Just ordered the part. Forgot to order the part last fall.
P/N 133555. AW Maserati in New Jersey. $51.50 with shipping.

Actually same P/N for late model Ferrari's with a manual.

I never used these guys, will see what happens.

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Thanks for the reminder.
Just ordered the part. Forgot to order the part last fall.
P/N 133555. AW Maserati in New Jersey. $51.50 with shipping.

Actually same P/N for late model Ferrari's with a manual.

I never used these guys, will see what happens.
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Let us know if and when you change it, if you can start the car without pressing the clutch.

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Let us know if and when you change it, if you can start the car without pressing the clutch.
The switch must be correctly set or it doesn't work. When I got my car the cruise control wouldn't work. I set the switch correctly and everything has been fine for several years. I had previously posted on this thread that my car will start without pressing the clutch pedal and with the switch properly set.
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